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12-30-2008, 04:23 PM
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^^A born diplomat.  Happy New Year.
Watertiger -- another great photo!! Lots of detail in that one.
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12-30-2008, 04:53 PM
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Can there somehow be a two-way tie? I'd have to say so.
Cincinnati and Cleveland.
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Nope! Cincinnati's by a long shot. 
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12-31-2008, 01:23 AM
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I did some research
This is a very interesting topic. The skyline of Cincinnati is very impressive; well balanced building distribution and a great blend of accentual style showing the city’s past construction accomplishments. The only problem is that it is very deceptive. It looks great from a distance but as you get closer you realize the buildings are not that tall. In the modern era if you want to be considered in this argument you got to have sky candy. The crown jewel of the city which gives it a nationally recognized image of power and mastery of the elements.
Cinci’s tallest building the Carew Tower is 574ft, this building is less than 50 feet taller than Cleveland’s 4th tallest building the Erieview Tower which is located in the beautiful Financial district along with other magnificent structures made of marble and stainless steel that can rival many other Ohio Cities skylines alone. However, will be building the Great American Insurance Building at Queen City Square in 2011 rising 86 feet (26 m) higher than the Carew Tower for a estimated total of 660ft only 2 feet taller than the BP tower Cleveland’s 3rd tallest building.
I will skip the Terminal Tower as everyone in Ohio should be familiar with the tallest building in the world outside of New York City until 1967. The Key tower is truly a work of art. It is the 50th-tallest building in the world, 17th-tallest in the United States. Has been the tallest building in the city and state since 1990. Stood as the tallest building in the United States between New York City and Chicago from its completion until 2007, when Comcast Center in Philadelphia surpassed it in height. It will be years before any city in Ohio builds anything like this. Coming off the lake it sits in the middle of Cleveland’s impressive skyline and thus completes my argument for Cleveland as having the great state of Ohio’s best skyline.
GO CAVS
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Reason: 2nd and 3rd paragraphs were in bold
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12-31-2008, 11:11 AM
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This is a very interesting topic. The skyline of Cincinnati is very impressive; well balanced building distribution and a great blend of accentual style showing the city’s past construction accomplishments. The only problem is that it is very deceptive. It looks great from a distance but as you get closer you realize the buildings are not that tall. In the modern era if you want to be considered in this argument you got to have sky candy. The crown jewel of the city which gives it a nationally recognized image of power and mastery of the elements.
Cinci’s tallest building the Carew Tower is 574ft, this building is less than 50 feet taller than Cleveland’s 4th tallest building the Erieview Tower which is located in the beautiful Financial district along with other magnificent structures made of marble and stainless steel that can rival many other Ohio Cities skylines alone. However, will be building the Great American Insurance Building at Queen City Square in 2011 rising 86 feet (26 m) higher than the Carew Tower for a estimated total of 660ft only 2 feet taller than the BP tower Cleveland’s 3rd tallest building.
I will skip the Terminal Tower as everyone in Ohio should be familiar with the tallest building in the world outside of New York City until 1967. The Key tower is truly a work of art. It is the 50th-tallest building in the world, 17th-tallest in the United States. Has been the tallest building in the city and state since 1990. Stood as the tallest building in the United States between New York City and Chicago from its completion until 2007, when Comcast Center in Philadelphia surpassed it in height. It will be years before any city in Ohio builds anything like this. Coming off the lake it sits in the middle of Cleveland’s impressive skyline and thus completes my argument for Cleveland as having the great state of Ohio’s best skyline.
GO CAVS
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Ummm yeah ....
We've covered that height has nothing to do with a skyline, which is why Dayton's skyline is so impressive. A skyline is nothing but a line drawn by the contrast of the buildings to the sky behind it. That's it! Aside from the quick education, Cincy is currently building their new 700-footer, with mid-rises soon to be started ... we call this progression.
You know what is also deceiving .... Crossing the Hudson from Weehawken, NJ heading into Manhattan. Have you ever seen this? It makes Philly's skyline look better when viewed from a distance ... question is: Is there a better skyline in the US outside of Manhattan? I'd think that you'd be a fool to say yes.
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12-31-2008, 03:27 PM
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i thought cleveland hated the idea of a flagpole counting toward the official height.
terminal tower w/o flagpole- 215 m (235 m)
GAI building 210 m
BP building 200 m
carew tower 175 m (200m)
erieview tower 161 m
central trust bldg 151 m
now think about this

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12-31-2008, 04:21 PM
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i thought cleveland hated the idea of a flagpole counting toward the official height.
terminal tower w/o flagpole- 215 m (235 m)
GAI building 210 m
BP building 200 m
carew tower 175 m (200m)
erieview tower 161 m
central trust bldg 151 m
now think about this
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What?
Oh not this again...That whole argument happened because the "official" height of the Carew Tower everywhere you look was 574 ft. tall and you wanted to argue with that. We used the "official" height of every building we compared, and the Carew Tower was no exception.
BTW, your numbers are off. BP Tower has no flagpole and GAI will only be 2 feet taller than it, so I dont see how you got 10 meters...Maybe you should have thought that one over. Cleveland is, and will be, taller no matter which way you look at it. Its the truth whether you want to accept it or not. I dont understand why its so hard for you to accept that.
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12-31-2008, 05:40 PM
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What?
Oh not this again...That whole argument happened because the "official" height of the Carew Tower everywhere you look was 574 ft. tall and you wanted to argue with that. We used the "official" height of every building we compared, and the Carew Tower was no exception.
BTW, your numbers are off. BP Tower has no flagpole and GAI will only be 2 feet taller than it, so I dont see how you got 10 meters...Maybe you should have thought that one over. Cleveland is, and will be, taller no matter which way you look at it. Its the truth whether you want to accept it or not. I dont understand why its so hard for you to accept that.
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the GAI building will be close to 700 feet. dig up my exchange with cincy-rise on 11-14-08. cleveland will ALWAYS be taller?? now cle440 is reading palms, you guys. you sure do like to argue with me, huh? i was responding to GDRDELROLLC. read his post, THEN read mine.
geez.
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12-31-2008, 06:40 PM
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Not according to what I see. Even the "official" reports say that its going to be 660 ft. tall. Or they could just be misinformed or lying...
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?cityID=150
Even your own skyscraper page says its going to be 660 ft. when completed...
I didnt say Cleveland would "always" be taller. What Im saying is that even after the GAI and whatever series of highrises that are being built within the next few years in Cincinnati are completed, Cleveland will still be taller.
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01-01-2009, 08:04 AM
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Not according to what I see. Even the "official" reports say that its going to be 660 ft. tall. Or they could just be misinformed or lying...
Cincinnati - SkyscraperPage.com
Even your own skyscraper page says its going to be 660 ft. when completed...
I didnt say Cleveland would "always" be taller. What Im saying is that even after the GAI and whatever series of highrises that are being built within the next few years in Cincinnati are completed, Cleveland will still be taller.
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taller, but far more spread out. look at the rendering on skyscraperpage. it was 210m, then somehow the number changed to 201m. reading this Cincinnati’s tallest skyscraper taking root in finely tuned production - Business Courier of Cincinnati: it states that the crown will be 130x130 ft. if they plan on building a tallest that is 530ft + crown, they need to scrap the whole damn thing right now. it's going to look ridiculous.
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01-01-2009, 09:23 AM
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