Ohio Cities and Metros New Crime Rankings (Columbus, Cincinnati: home, living in)

[mrb69]

Originally Posted by JR_C

When a suburb is annexed, it isn't a suburb anymore, it's part of the city.

Why can't you compare Youngstown and Canton?

No its still a suburb but now people consider it part of the inner-city. Every suburb looks the same it doesnt have any character. It doesn't have any history or culture. It doesn't have the old style houses or the old beautiful neighborhoods. Also it doesn't have the same great vibe......

The inner-city and the suburbs are two highly diffent things and shouldn't be together.

[BelieveInCleve]

Buckeye89,

You? lol. Your attacking me? What a surprise. Its hilarious that its you though. Nearly all of your posts on this site that Ive seen is attacking people. You need to understand that nobody takes you seriously. Your a joke and you have no idea what your talking about. Youve barely been outside of Columbus so you have no right to even compare it to other areas. Just like in the school district thread. You were talking about how absolutely horrible Columbus schools are...compared to what? the suburbs? See what Im talking about? Im willing to bet youve barely been outside of Columbus so you really have no way to compare it to other areas since you dont even know about them. And if you dont know that Lorain is ghetto youve never been here before (Check my Lorain Thread again...). Dont talk about things you dont know about, I lived almost my whole life in poverty in "the ghetto", dont start that with me. You dont know me.

And worst of all you dont listen. I swear man...how many times do I have to explain this to you people? You want to hear my life story, here it is so you can shut up about it, Ive been honest about since I joined this forum: I was born on the westside of Cleveland, lived there until I was about 6. After that I switched living mainly in South Elyria and Central Lorain until I was around 22. In that time period I lived for a short time in Cleveland around where I was born on the westside and off Superior on the Eastside. Thats not counting all the times I visited other areas. Around when I was 21 I really started studying urban areas seriously because I was curious and I was hoping to get a job. Ive been studying them extensively ever since. From ages about 22 to 26 (a little over a year ago) at first I lived in North Ridgeville with a family member to get out of the hood, but those 4-5 years are when I did almost all of my traveling. Ive been to many places as Ive said and lived for short times, just to mention a few: NYC, Philly, NJ, Columbus, Cincinnati. I lived in a few other areas but visited almost every major city in the NE and Midwest, only a few in the south and west for a very short time. Check all my posts, everything adds up, I didnt lie. Your whole argument just backfired on you. Now can you please shut up about that, thanks.

[JR_C]

Originally Posted by mrb69

From every pic i've seen on UrbanOhio.com Canton seems to look more like springfield rather Youngstown. Most years Youngstown has close to 35 murders while Canton has about 9 and rember both cities almost have the same popultion. Besides crime is really down in Youngstown this year.

You're right that Canton and Youngstown (at least downtown) don't look the same. But that doesn't mean they aren't comparable.

If you ignore the murder rate, Canton has a higher crime rate than Youngstown. (per 2006 stats) It's great that Youngstown's crime is down. I hope Canton's is too.

Originally Posted by mrb69

No its still a suburb but now people consider it part of the inner-city. Every suburb looks the same it doesnt have any character. It doesn't have any history or culture. It doesn't have the old style houses or the old beautiful neighborhoods. Also it doesn't have the same great vibe......

The inner-city and the suburbs are two highly diffent things and shouldn't be together.

But crime stats don't consider the feel of a neighborhood. City limits are all that matter. In Youngstown, for example, there are plenty of neighborhoods in the city that feel very suburban.

[nebulous1]

I am originally from Ohio and hate to see what is happening there. It is the lack of jobs that is to blame for this. Don't put any pies in the windows.

The politicians and media still think we can solve the problem by getting people to buy things for Christmas. They just don't get it.

[Buckeye 89]

lol i had my response ready to submit, but i hit the wrong button and lost it. and i have things to do instead of google statistics and google map bad areas in cities and say i've been there

ok ok im sorry, the opportunity presented its self right there. but honestly i don't attack people, the only person i argue with on here is you. and here you have 20 page threads arguing about how lorain ohio is tough. ok

now i dont know why you just typed up that whole rant about what i don't believe you on and act like somebody just slapped a certified sticker on it. if that's the case, i would have never questioned you right? just because you said

u brought schools up? come one. your argument about that was the same about everything you don't agree with "i drove past' "i know people there" "i saw the school let out, and came to the conclusion it's not as bad as people say" lol

[BelieveInCleve]

Buckeye89,
Im sure you came up with a decent response and lost it, Im sure...

You always have the same argument with me. Google maps? lol. I made a thread about that months ago when they made it for Cleveland and havent even been on since then. Im on the internet 1-2 hours a day, Im busy the other 22-23 hours (including sleep) so dont start with that. Its sad that you attack me on the most childish, and false things. I told the truth with everything I say on here. And like I said, for all I know you could be from North Dakota.

If you looked at the Lorain thread, you would realize that Im not the one who started the argument, and there was many more people involved than just me. Just like every other argument on the Ohio forum, it started because somebody (mainly hillside) had no idea what they were talking about. I didnt lie or exaggerate at all on that thread. If you say something false or disrespect a place where Im from (Cleveland, Lorain, Elyria), Im going to correct you. I dont wish I was from the ghetto, but I am. I believe, and would advise everybody, to not believe anything that you ever say about a place. You make it obvious youve barely been outside of Columbus so you cant even speak on that, let alone anyplace else. Its quite hypocritical of you to claim Im trying to make places look worse then they are, when you do the same thing in most of your posts with Columbus. Why are you trying so hard to convince everybody that Columbus should be ranked higher on the list? top 10?...Come on man, at least I was being truthful about Lorain.

[hillside]

Originally Posted by Cle440

Buckeye89,
Im sure you came up with a decent response and lost it, Im sure...

You always have the same argument with me. Google maps? lol. I made a thread about that months ago when they made it for Cleveland and havent even been on since then. Im on the internet 1-2 hours a day, Im busy the other 22-23 hours (including sleep) so dont start with that. Its sad that you attack me on the most childish, and false things. I told the truth with everything I say on here. And like I said, for all I know you could be from North Dakota.

If you looked at the Lorain thread, you would realize that Im not the one who started the argument, and there was many more people involved than just me. Just like every other argument on the Ohio forum, it started because somebody (mainly hillside) had no idea what they were talking about. I didnt lie or exaggerate at all on that thread. If you say something false or disrespect a place where Im from (Cleveland, Lorain, Elyria), Im going to correct you. I dont wish I was from the ghetto, but I am. I believe, and would advise everybody, to not believe anything that you ever say about a place. You make it obvious youve barely been outside of Columbus so you cant even speak on that, let alone anyplace else. Its quite hypocritical of you to claim Im trying to make places look worse then they are, when you do the same thing in most of your posts with Columbus. Why are you trying so hard to convince everybody that Columbus should be ranked higher on the list? top 10?...Come on man, at least I was being truthful about Lorain.

And you could NOT be from cleveland.

why is my name coming out your mouth?

i haven't said anything about you, or your pathetic paragraphs that start with telling someone they

had no idea what they were talking about

and end with metro cleveland's epic fall championing all the problems of every city outside of detroit. i know cleveland is bad. in fact, it sucks, but i don't go around telling people their knowledge doesn't count, and that my personal accounts are more jarring, more connected to that of serious urban crime than others from similar cities in my home state.

[mrb69]

Originally Posted by JR_C

You're right that Canton and Youngstown (at least downtown) don't look the same. But that doesn't mean they aren't comparable.

If you ignore the murder rate, Canton has a higher crime rate than Youngstown. (per 2006 stats) It's great that Youngstown's crime is down. I hope Canton's is too.



But crime stats don't consider the feel of a neighborhood. City limits are all that matter. In Youngstown, for example, there are plenty of neighborhoods in the city that feel very suburban.

So murder doesn't matter? Its still counted as a crime and if you don't know its the worse kind. So a down year for Youngstown and a up year for Canton doesn't make the two cities comparable at all.

I didn't say crime makes the feeling of a neighborhood, I said "No its still a suburb but now people consider it part of the inner-city. Every suburb looks the same it doesnt have any character. It doesn't have any history or culture. It doesn't have the old style houses or the old beautiful neighborhoods. Also it doesn't have the same great vibe......".

[Buckeye 89]

but those 4-5 years are when I did almost all of my traveling.

Ive been to many places as Ive said and lived for short times

I grew up in NE Ohio and have lived here my whole life so far.

you getting your self caught up in your lies. im sure you will come up with some way to explain how you have lived in so many places for short periods of time, but just last year you lived in lorain, elyria or wherever your whole life

and stop with the "stop trying to make a city look worse" thing. if ANYTHING that's you, i saw you get mad because toledo is called "little detroit"

"toledo is not that bad, if anything cleveland would be little detroit"

wow

the circus is over

[mrb69]

Lorain seems to look like a really pretty city rather then a ghetto.