Cleveland vs. Cincinnati (Toledo, Akron, Dayton: crime rate, employment, live in)

[OhioUberAlles]

Originally Posted by Cincy-Rise

^ Let me guess .... RP?

He wasn't even on the ballot, he basically let a lot of his supporters down. He should have at least gotten on the ballot. I would have voted for him if he had been on the ballot.

I voted for Baldwin.

[Cincy-Rise]

Originally Posted by OhioUberAlles

He wasn't even on the ballot, he basically let a lot of his supporters down. He should have at least gotten on the ballot. I would have voted for him if he had been on the ballot.

I voted for Baldwin.

Ooops, I meant to insert "fan" after RP.

[WeSoHood]

Originally Posted by edogg

I heard East Cleveland and Over the Rhine is a great place to buy a gun....

Should I even begin to mention sports?? Let's see the Sox, Pats and Celtics have 6 championships in 6 years...Cincy and Cleveland 0!! Shall we compare Headlands Beach toCape Cod, Martha's Vineyard and Nantucket?? Skinng in Vermont and New Hampshire. Maine in the fall. You can keep your guns.

One more reason to move the east coast...jobs!!!

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2009/01/23/ap5958251.html

A true fan of his hometown sports CONTINUES to be a fan when he relocates. I find your post embarrassing for Cleveland fans

Oh and Boston jobs? Maybe you should take another look!

A new study of US metro regions predicts that greater Boston will have the fifth biggest job loss in the country during 2009

http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/st...9/daily10.html

[bobcat83]

Sorry wesohood...edogg is right on target. 8.8% in Ohio....7.4% in Mass.

Ohio unemployment rate jumped to 8.8 percent in January - Cleveland.com

Mass. unemployment rate jumps to 7.4 percent - Daily Business Update - The Boston Globe

[CincyNative]

I would be curious to find out if the economic data provided in the Cleveland Plain Dealer included the entire Cincinnati MSA or just the Ohio portion. I have a hard time believing a MSA of 2.2 million people has a smaller economic impact than Columbus. I would guess just the Ohio portion.

I've travelled extensively throughout Ohio for work, both tiny towns and each major city... and have plenty of time in Cleveland. The main difference between Cleveland and Cincy is the industrial feel and extensive stock of post WWII housing in the majority of neighborhoods in Cleveland. Not that Cincinnati doesn't have its share of WWII stock housing... what city doesn't, but I'm amazed at the volume of housing that looks exactly the same and lacks character. I suppose that was a combination of Clevelands heyday and baby boom...

That being said... I've stuck around Columbus after graduation and wish it had one ounce of the character Cincinnati neighborhoods have or several of the Cleveland neighborhoods I'm familiar with have. Fortunately I found one in Grandview.

[jonathancool345]

i think Cincinnati is cool we have good diversity and however we do get alot of construction on are freeways but cincinnati has everything.
We have King Island wich is a cool asmutment park every year we get more than 12 celebrities and King Island got voted as the 4 best asmusment park in the usa. Theres lots and lots more but i just picked this because i cant fit it all on this page but cleveland got voted as the 4 worst most crime city in the us.

[jam40jeff]

Originally Posted by CincyNative

The main difference between Cleveland and Cincy is the industrial feel and extensive stock of post WWII housing in the majority of neighborhoods in Cleveland. Not that Cincinnati doesn't have its share of WWII stock housing... what city doesn't, but I'm amazed at the volume of housing that looks exactly the same and lacks character. I suppose that was a combination of Clevelands heyday and baby boom...

What do you mean about Cleveland having a large amount of Post WWII stock housing? Nearly all of Cleveland was built by 1930, and many of the inner ring suburbs were built before WWII. Do you mean post WWII suburbs, such as Parma and Garfield Heights? I do agree that Cleveland has a large number of those.

I think Cleveland and Cincinnati both have a large amount of interesting and historical structures. Cincinnati's may be a little mor scenic due to the hilly geography of the area. I think as far as the older suburbs go, Cleveland's may be more noticable because they tend to be planned developments whereas Cincinnati tends to have a lot of haphazard township development. Both are ugly, as most post WWII development is, but as far as the central cities ago, I think there is plenty of interesting neighborhoods in both cities.

Also, I have heard good things about Grandview, but never been there. I do not like COlumbus at all, esepcially as you move out to the fringes of the city limits (and places like Dublin are just unbearable to me), but I do like Westerville (the town itself) as well as Bexley, Short North, and German Village. I'll have to check out Grandview.

[Beavercreek33]

I think both have great qualities. I can see this being another "who is better than who" thread. To tell you the truth, that is what I love about Ohio. We have such great cities all over the state, and each one is different because of its location and therefore has so much different history, architecture, planning, population trends, economics, etc. Wake up Ohioans, see how great and diverse our cities are.

[XdesIDtrans]

Originally Posted by 1watertiger

Brookings Institution report shows Cleveland still a big economic force - OPENERS - Ohio Politics Blog by The Plain Dealer something not to many people know.. cleveland (by far) has the largest % of this states gross domestic product at 22.5% ! forget cinci,ohio or even this country cleveland ranks in the top 25 in the world ! people tend not to see the big picture in bad times.

Actually, it is the bigger picture that this article misses. It talks only of Ohio residents and the Ohio metropolitan area which make Cincinnati appear smaller than even Columbus. What they fail to mention is that Cincinnati's metropolitan population (which takes Nothern Kentucky into account) is actually bigger than Cleveland's.

Also, it is hard to tell how this has affected the GDP of Cincinnati vs Cleveland since they only have statistics to 2006. Northern Kentucky is a huge part of Cincinnati's economy, it is laughable to compare the two cities without including that part of Cincinnati's metro area.

[Beavercreek33]

Originally Posted by XdesIDtrans

Actually, it is the bigger picture that this article misses. It talks only of Ohio residents and the Ohio metropolitan area which make Cincinnati appear smaller than even Columbus. What they fail to mention is that Cincinnati's metropolitan population (which takes Nothern Kentucky into account) is actually bigger than Cleveland's.

Also, it is hard to tell how this has affected the GDP of Cincinnati vs Cleveland since they only have statistics to 2006. Northern Kentucky is a huge part of Cincinnati's economy, it is laughable to compare the two cities without including that part of Cincinnati's metro area.

Its not laughable at all. The only thing NKY has going for it is the fact that the international airport is on that side. Cincinnati is in the top 10 U.S. cities with Fortune 500 companies based there. Not one of those fortune 500 companies is based in NKY.