Worst looking Ohio city (Cleveland, Toledo: low crime, get credit, neighborhoods)

[truemuck]

Originally Posted by jam40jeff

No, Chagrin Falls is a good suburban town. Stow is hot suburban mess. This isn't "Most Ghetto City" or "Worst City to Live". This is "Worst Looking City". And there's no doubt in my mind that the worst looking places in Ohio are usually condo complexes that seem to monotonously stretch for miles up against the backside of a freeway sound barrier, usually about 15 miles outside of the downtown of a large city (especially along I-270 in Columbus). History will not be kind to places like that.

I should probably rescind Columbiana. I have only ever been to one run-down neighborhood near the railroad tracks (never even made it "downtown"), so I shouldn't say. And if it does have a quaint, old downtown, I can't imagine it being near as ugly as the treeless, sprawling pavement, one-story building landscapes of most suburban cities.

Using your definition of ugly, you need to come to Boardman if you want to see a suburban mess. I like my town, but its more of a mess than what Stow is. To me ugly, is rundown, a lot of abandoned buildings, and other blight. Places like Boardman and Stow aren't ugly, just poorly planned and nothing extraordinary to look at.
Chagrin Falls is really nice, but I couldn't afford to live there. Same deal with Hudson.

Not a great pic, but here's downtown Columbiana:


Its not all ritzy like Chagrin Falls or Hudson, but its just a nice example of small town America.

[jam40jeff]

Not bad at all. I appreciate small town America as well as urban areas. As I said, I rescind my Columbiana comment as I have only been to one small part by the railroad tracks that was in bad shape.

To me, there is more thing of interest to look at in an area with old buildings, even if a bunch are abandoned, than there is in most of suburbia, which to me is as ugly as it gets. Of course, ugly is very subjective. As far as urban areas go, the ugliest areas are probably the ones where buildings have been razed altogether, leaving telephone poles and weeds filling entire blocks, such as around Euclid Ave. and E. 59th St. in Cleveland.

[Beavercreek33]

I have heard many good things about Columbiana. Is that the center of town? That looks awesome. Nice landscaping, and I like the clock.

[Beavercreek33]

Originally Posted by jam40jeff

Not bad at all. I appreciate small town America as well as urban areas. As I said, I rescind my Columbiana comment as I have only been to one small part by the railroad tracks that was in bad shape.

To me, there is more thing of interest to look at in an area with old buildings, even if a bunch are abandoned, than there is in most of suburbia, which to me is as ugly as it gets. Of course, ugly is very subjective. As far as urban areas go, the ugliest areas are probably the ones where buildings have been razed altogether, leaving telephone poles and weeds filling entire blocks, such as around Euclid Ave. and E. 59th St. in Cleveland.

Actually I just got back from Cleveland, and Euclid Avenue was full of development, it had a new transit line in place, new landscaping, and the storefronts were filling in. I thought Euclid Avenue was really taking on a nice change.

[truemuck]

Originally Posted by Beavercreek33

I have heard many good things about Columbiana. Is that the center of town? That looks awesome. Nice landscaping, and I like the clock.

Yes it is. During the Christmas season they stretch out lights from the clock at the center of the circle to the street lamps on the periphery of the circle. You can't see it in this pic, but theres also an old movie theater on the NW corner of the circle that was recently redone.

[Beavercreek33]

Originally Posted by truemuck

Yes it is. During the Christmas season they stretch out lights from the clock at the center of the circle to the street lamps on the periphery of the circle. You can't see it in this pic, but theres also an old movie theater on the NW corner of the circle that was recently redone.

That is awesome news, an old theater redone. Have you been into since, if so is it nice?

[jam40jeff]

Originally Posted by Beavercreek33

Actually I just got back from Cleveland, and Euclid Avenue was full of development, it had a new transit line in place, new landscaping, and the storefronts were filling in. I thought Euclid Avenue was really taking on a nice change.

Don't get me wrong. One, I love Cleveland. Two, Euclid Avenue IS great. It is great from Public Square to past CSU. Then it is looking much better all the way to East 55th St. Also, it looks wonderful in University Circle and around the Clinic. However, the stretch from E. 55th St. to E. 79th St. is still the pits. Take Euclid Ave. past E. 55th St. some time and turn left on E. 59th St. toward Chester. You'll see what I mean.

But, yes, especially downtown, Euclid Ave. is really looking great these days.

[BelieveInCleve]

Originally Posted by jam40jeff

Not bad at all. I appreciate small town America as well as urban areas. As I said, I rescind my Columbiana comment as I have only been to one small part by the railroad tracks that was in bad shape.

To me, there is more thing of interest to look at in an area with old buildings, even if a bunch are abandoned, than there is in most of suburbia, which to me is as ugly as it gets. Of course, ugly is very subjective. As far as urban areas go, the ugliest areas are probably the ones where buildings have been razed altogether, leaving telephone poles and weeds filling entire blocks, such as around Euclid Ave. and E. 59th St. in Cleveland.

By your definition you should check out Holton Ave. in Cleveland. It goes from E75th to Woodhill/E93rd. Ive been down the whole street before and its almost entirely dirty vacant lots and abandoned buildings. People dump a lot of stuff down there also. Very ugly area.

[NorthPoleMarathoner]

Originally Posted by toledoattorney

Way worse looking cities include: East Cleveland, Youngstown, and Marietta

Marietta? LOLs. Anyone who has been to Marietta would not say that.

It is a wonderful town.

My vote would be for Galipolis or anything in Meigs County. State of Ohio should just give those areas to West Virginia.

We should throw in Vinton and Morgan Counties too.

[jam40jeff]

Originally Posted by Cle440

By your definition you should check out Holton Ave. in Cleveland. It goes from E75th to Woodhill/E93rd. Ive been down the whole street before and its almost entirely dirty vacant lots and abandoned buildings. People dump a lot of stuff down there also. Very ugly area.

Absolutely. Looking at the map I never knew the name of that street. But when riding the rapid you pass over it on the set of bridges between the Woodhill and 79th stops on the Green/Blue lines. It definitely fits my definition.