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Old 05-27-2009, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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Well, to try and go back on topic, I'm gonna stick with my original reasons for Columbus:

Reasons:
College town
Diverse Economy
State Capital
Plenty of LAND (what Cleveland and Cincy stopped enjoying about 1950ish)

and Annexation over the years...
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Old 05-27-2009, 12:13 PM
 
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I wouldn't characterize all the growth in KY as being suburban sprawl. Newport and Covington have both had some nice developments that are definitely not suburban sprawl.
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Old 05-27-2009, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Blue Ash, Ohio (Cincinnati)
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I wouldn't characterize all the growth in KY as being suburban sprawl. Newport and Covington have both had some nice developments that are definitely not suburban sprawl.

No, your right, that little piece of land is really nice. Many people give the new highrise in Covington a bad rap, but I like it. Newport and Covington is a small exception to the NKY sprawl topic. But, they wouldn't be in the positions that they are today, if it weren't for Cincinnati.

Back on topic, Cincinnati is doing very well. Just go stand on the Kentucky side of the river, there are cranes everywhere.
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Old 05-27-2009, 12:37 PM
 
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I'm not so sure Columbus is doing that much better than the rest of Ohio. Sure it has a little more population growth, but I feel part of that is just due to the fact it has more land area to accomodate the sprawl most people in this country still believe is the American Dream. As far as jobs go, median income is only slightly higher than the Cleveland MSA, and actually slightly lower than the Cincinnati MSA. And as far as unemployment rates, they aren't all that different (8.1% for Columbus, 8.7% for Cleveland, and 9.0% for Columbus). I think that the rapid suburbanization of Columbus is often mistaken for growth. There is SOME real growth in the Columbus area, but I feel it is greatly exaggerated.
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Old 05-27-2009, 01:53 PM
 
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Break it down for us!
Break what down...the populations of NKY counties? Or their growth rates? I thought you were simply commenting about NKY's cut of the total MSA population. Are you saying NKY's growth rate is only about 5% of the total MSA's growth rate?

You know me, CR...I get confused easily.
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Old 05-27-2009, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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Originally Posted by Hey_Hey View Post
Here's the 2008 estimates for Cincinnati's MSA population:

Total pop - 2,155,137

KY counties in MSA:
Boone - 115,231
Bracken - 8,569
Campbell - 87,038
Gallatin - 8,072
Grant - 25,549
Kenton - 157,629
Pendleton - 14,992

Total of KY counties in MSA - 417,079
Percent of total - 19.4%

In 2005 NKY made up 19.2% of the MSA's population.
In 2000 NKY made up 18.9% of the MSA's population.
It WAS broken down...in the last page.



Now, Columbus OH
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Old 05-27-2009, 05:24 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Hey_Hey View Post
Here's the 2008 estimates for Cincinnati's MSA population:

Total pop - 2,155,137

KY counties in MSA:
Boone - 115,231
Bracken - 8,569
Campbell - 87,038
Gallatin - 8,072
Grant - 25,549
Kenton - 157,629
Pendleton - 14,992

Total of KY counties in MSA - 417,079
Percent of total - 19.4%

In 2005 NKY made up 19.2% of the MSA's population.
In 2000 NKY made up 18.9% of the MSA's population.
Thanks for this (aquila, as rare as it is ... you were right ), so it looks like there isn't a tremendous amount of growth then?
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Old 05-27-2009, 05:26 PM
 
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Break what down...the populations of NKY counties? Or their growth rates? I thought you were simply commenting about NKY's cut of the total MSA population. Are you saying NKY's growth rate is only about 5% of the total MSA's growth rate?

You know me, CR...I get confused easily.
Yeah, I meant pop. at first and then saw that he referenced "growth" ... which is slow.
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Old 05-27-2009, 05:45 PM
 
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Columbus wasn't doing 'so much better' when they have a depleted economy and had a population the size of Akron. It was when they incorporated other communities that started the boom. Columbus is practically the size of Cuyahoga County. Imagine if Cleveland or Cinci annexed their suburbs - how much "better" it would appear they were doing on paper.
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Old 05-27-2009, 07:22 PM
 
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Thanks for this (aquila, as rare as it is ... you were right )...
As rare as it is...?

Oh, bite me!

No, wait...you might enjoy that too much.

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