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06-08-2009, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Cle440
Actually, all 6 of those cities/metros have very good and extensive rapid/light rail lines/public transportation, and they are all very diverse.
It seems like you're still missing my point. There is cities in Ohio closer and farther away from being a global city, you cannot tell me that Lima is as close to being a global city as Cleveland.
I'm not uttering them in the same breath, all I'm saying is Cleveland is the closest thing in Ohio to a global city. It's not that hard to understand.
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Ok, first off, no Detroit does not have any form of light rail, unless you consider the pathetic people mover as such. I still have other threads to get to, including you know what  (crime lol) later.
Cle440, I love your passion for Cleveland, I just don't understand the ambition of talking so much about the crime. Anyway, not to get off topic, and I have been in Cleveland for two weeks on business, and I am loving this city more and more each day.
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06-08-2009, 06:25 AM
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Ok, first off, no Detroit does not have any form of light rail, unless you consider the pathetic people mover as such. I still have other threads to get to, including you know what  (crime lol) later.
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The people mover is pathetic.
Why do people equate light rail as the the only kind of publc transportation?The roads are all built, maintained and repaired by government. Gov't provides security for roads also. Therefore, roads should be considered public transportation since that is what they are. 
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06-08-2009, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Beavercreek33
Ok, first off, no Detroit does not have any form of light rail, unless you consider the pathetic people mover as such. I still have other threads to get to, including you know what  (crime lol) later.
Cle440, I love your passion for Cleveland, I just don't understand the ambition of talking so much about the crime. Anyway, not to get off topic, and I have been in Cleveland for two weeks on business, and I am loving this city more and more each day.
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Detroit was not one of the 6 global cities in the US that Cincy-Rise mentioned. I know Detroit doesn't have any true light rail or heavy rail, the people mover is pathetic. I doubt Detroit is even dense enough now to support a light rail or heavy rail going from downtown to the inner city neighborhoods like Cleveland has.
It's great that you're loving the city.
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06-11-2009, 02:50 PM
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Cincy-Rise, the voice of reason.
-If I had to do an eyeball test, hop from one city to another, Cincinnati would easily strike me as larger than St. Louis. Bigger impact coming in from KY, denser downtown, largest city district + several areas on STL's most urban scale, bustle, metro, etc.
If Cleveland got rolling, it could peak IMO in the fashion of Houston or Atlanta, where the energy of the people exceed the wonder of the actual place. Conversely, Cincinnati would compare to San Fran or Boston.
Cleveland - rail, NBA
Cincinnati - urban fabric, educational institutions
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06-11-2009, 05:58 PM
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hillside.. You can't compare Cinci to San Fran. San Fran has one of the densest downtown/city. It also has one of the highest flow of people in downtown in the US. Boston as well. It has 100,000 people alone living in downtown. And remember, Cleveland is more dense than Cinci and when Cleveland had 900,000 people, it was around 13,000 per square mile.
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06-11-2009, 08:57 PM
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Look, let's just cut to the chase and stoke the egos that need to be stoked:
Cincinnati is a joke.
Cleveland is the greatest thing since sliced bread and apple pie, and by far the most extraordinary place in Ohio.
Since I know that's what some people want to hear, I've said it. Now, can we move on with comparing Cincinnati (I mean, Cinccinatti) to San Francisco and Boston. 
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06-11-2009, 09:24 PM
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hillside, I haven't seen you post on here in months and you come right back in with this  I see nothing has changed.
Cincy-Rise is the voice or reason? Why? Probably because he's on Cincinnati's side.
I've only been to St. Louis briefly, but it struck me as a much larger city and area than Cincinnati. I've never heard of anybody who thought different.
The last 2 things I'm not even going to touch on because they're just plain ridiculous. There's a difference between sticking up for your city/saying true things about it, and being incredibly bias and exaggerating greatly. Cincinnati comparable (or ever will be in the future) to San Francisco? You've officially lost it hillside.
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