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View Poll Results: Which of these three cities/metro areas has the brightest future?
Cincinnati 53 32.92%
Columbus 51 31.68%
Cleveland 48 29.81%
Dunno 9 5.59%
Voters: 161. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-17-2011, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Blue Ash, Ohio (Cincinnati)
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It's not just an Ohio thing, other states bicker over non sense like this as well. Columbus is on a roll, and is better now than it's ever been. I haven't hungout there for about 3 years or so, but everytime I'm up there, I have a blast. Cincy and Cleveland are cities past their prime, that are trying to re-invent themselves. They are doing a great job at it too, while still having a ways to go. Columbus on the other hand, seems to be in it's prime now and isn't reinventing itself, but rebranding itself. What I mean by this is, not completely switcing it's economy like the other cities have had to do, but instead building on to their current economic situation while trying to carve a name for themselves.

All 3 of our large cities have alot to learn from eachother, and need to take the negatives of eachother and use that as an example of what NOT to do. We should be greatful that a substantial amount of development is ocurring in the 3 C's. I really think all of them have equally bright futures, it's just a matter of who reaches their vision first. Too bad our high speed rail was killed, because I feel that would've been the ultimate "push" to accelerate this momentum we have going. Actually, the biggest negative about Columbus, is our p.o.s. governor who resides there, but that makes for another topic
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Old 04-17-2011, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Blue Ash, Ohio (Cincinnati)
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I haven't downgraded Cleveland and Cincy I'm just saying that Columbus has a stronger economy. Cleveland has some excellent assets, but as a whole Columbus has a stronger economy. Cleveland has done an amazing job at diversifying, but manufacturing is still an important part of its economy.

I think it would be great if Cleveland and Cincy boomed because they are great cities, but all signs seem to point to Columbus having long term economic prosperity.
Yes, but once again, signs DO NOT point to Columbus having long term prosperity over the other two. Cincinnati and Cleveland are just as diverse, and have just as powerful if not more powerful economic contributers behind them as Columbus.
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Old 04-17-2011, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Blue Ash, Ohio (Cincinnati)
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I think Ohioans need to stop complaining which city is better. I love all three of them. They each are so different, yet so alike. I think that is half the problem here.

I love the development that is going on in each city, I just hope our idiotic governor does not stop a lot of this.

Just to give you an idea:

Columbus:

If you haven't been to this city in a while, check out its booming downtown with projects like Scioto Mile, the bridges, the housing conversions eating up a lot the surface parking lots, Arena District is so built up now it is building on its last parcel of land, Huntington Park named best ballpark of 2010 (even over pro baseball's new Yankee Stadium), the amazing neighborhoods that make the city so unique and flourish with character. Look into the new 14 story Hilton being built downtown, and all the new condo highrises that add to the skyline. The $1 billion dollar OSU medical expansion project. Columbus is young and thriving.

Cincinnati:

Here in Cincinnati construction cranes are dotting the riverfront as the $1 billion dollars Banks project continues to roll out. Most of the units in the first phase are already sold out. And the "front yard" of Cincinnati is building the Cincinnati Riverfront Park. New hotel conversions continue to take place, we are seeing a new casino being built on one of the last remaining surface parking lots in the city, and businesses in the suburbs are moving downtown because of the continued growth. Cincy just built its tallest, and one of the fastest areas of gentrification in the country is taking place in the booming Over-The-Rhine neighborhood. Cincinnati's neighborhoods are some of the best you will find, with life and character to them that is hard to beat.

Cleveland:

Talk about an underrated city. Cleveland currently has $2 billion worth of projects going on in downtown alone! Between the mixed used Flats East Bank, Medical Mart and Convention Center, two new casinos, Downtown Cleveland continues to be one of the biggest success stories as far as downtowns go in the Midwest. Not to forget the warehouse and loft conversions that dot the downtown. 668 Euclid sold out all of its units in just a few weeks. Look at all the neighborhoods around the city that contiune to see rapid development. University Circle is not just a place to get world class medical care, but to see world class cultural institutions. Not to mention construction cranes dot the place with constant hospitals being built, the Uptown project and MOCA. While you're at it, head to Playhouse Square to see all the theatres being renovated and explore the nation's second largest theatre district.

These are just to name a few. I don't have the time to post everything because there is so much happening. Come on people, realize Ohio has something that a lot of states don't have... all of our major cities are experiencing some great development and proving to the country that we are a force that shouldn't be looked down upon. We should all be happy that our cities are doing well, and not look at the negatives to put the other ones down.

The 3C's are on a roll. Now all we need is Kasich to go back to Pittsburgh where he belongs.
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Old 04-17-2011, 11:18 AM
 
Location: cleveland
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Cincinnati has counties in 3 states. Who cares. I'm not sure what exactly this changes.
my point is this. even with the population decreases in cleveland and cincy the metros are still twice the size of columbus. anyone can see that by just driving around in each city. and thats great that you love columbus, but like others have mentioned you tend to bash cleveland or cincy to make columbus seem better. imo my favorite metros/regions of the state are cleveland, cincy then columbus. im biased, i like being near our great lake with all the things that go with it... from the beautiful/romantic sunsets on a hot summer night, boating, partying out on the lake, sunbathing, fishing, jet-sking, watching para-sailing and sail-surfing at edgewater beach or headlands beach. if you cant live near the ocean, the great-lakes are the next best thing imo.
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Old 04-17-2011, 02:25 PM
 
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the whole cin/day thing is a joke..a large portion of daytons msa is closer to columbus than cincinnati..springfield is only 41 miles from columbus..fairborn,huber hieights..get a compass and draw lines on a map.i work in advertising so i know these areas inside and out.the cincy csa and columbus csa for 2010 are virtually the same @2.1 million and cover basically the same geographic area.to say cleveland and cincinnati are twice as large as columbus is delusional..accept the fact that columbus will be the largest and ,most important metro area in ohio..
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Old 04-17-2011, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Blue Ash, Ohio (Cincinnati)
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the whole cin/day thing is a joke..a large portion of daytons msa is closer to columbus than cincinnati..springfield is only 41 miles from columbus..fairborn,huber hieights..get a compass and draw lines on a map.i work in advertising so i know these areas inside and out.the cincy csa and columbus csa for 2010 are virtually the same @2.1 million and cover basically the same geographic area.to say cleveland and cincinnati are twice as large as columbus is delusional..accept the fact that columbus will be the largest and ,most important metro area in ohio..
Wow, with this last post, you have lost all credibility. Columbus is not the largest and most important metro in Ohio. Talk about being on a constant high horse. If you want to be like that, Cincinnati and Cleveland blow Columbus out of the water in almost every category outside of population growth. The economic output in Columbus is still several billion dollars lower than Cincy and Cleveland.

Damn, you try to be nice towards Columbus, and you have posters like this... For crying out loud, your sentence structure is terrible too.

Keep bashing Cleveland and Cincinnati, you are just going to get it back from the other posters. I go out of my way to make a nice post towards all three cities, and we still have people that constantly bi***.
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:33 PM
 
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the whole cin/day thing is a joke..a large portion of daytons msa is closer to columbus than cincinnati..springfield is only 41 miles from columbus..fairborn,huber hieights..get a compass and draw lines on a map.i work in advertising so i know these areas inside and out.the cincy csa and columbus csa for 2010 are virtually the same @2.1 million and cover basically the same geographic area.to say cleveland and cincinnati are twice as large as columbus is delusional..accept the fact that columbus will be the largest and ,most important metro area in ohio..
You are crazy. The CSA of Cincinnati covers 4200 square miles. The columbus CSA covers nearly 7000 square miles. As a matter of fact, the soon to be Cincinnati Dayton MSA will have the same square miles as the Columbus CSA with a million more people.

Cleveland-Akron-Canton. MSA: 3,184,862 CSA: 3,286,359

Cincinnati-Dayton-Springfield. MSA: 3,109,986 CSA: 3,245,082



http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/fedregv75n163.pdf
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:56 PM
 
Location: cleveland
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the whole cin/day thing is a joke..a large portion of daytons msa is closer to columbus than cincinnati..springfield is only 41 miles from columbus..fairborn,huber hieights..get a compass and draw lines on a map.i work in advertising so i know these areas inside and out.the cincy csa and columbus csa for 2010 are virtually the same @2.1 million and cover basically the same geographic area.to say cleveland and cincinnati are twice as large as columbus is delusional..accept the fact that columbus will be the largest and ,most important metro area in ohio..
cleveland/cuyahoga counties developed/urban lakefront easily stretches 40miles east and west. and 10 miles north and south. thats 400 sq miles and that is leaving out many suburbs in lorain,medina,summit and lake counties.. i stand by the fact that 2-200sq mile columbus/franklin counties developed/urban areas, would easily fit inside metro cleveland.. why is that so hard for you to grasp? think about this chet, drive the 25 miles east from downtown columbus to buckeye lake on I70. after about 8 miles its farms/woods the entire way... agreed? now drive 25miles east from downtown cleveland on I90 and your in the suburb of mentor in lake county. try it in any direction and you will understand what im saying.
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Old 04-17-2011, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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my point is this. even with the population decreases in cleveland and cincy the metros are still twice the size of columbus. anyone can see that by just driving around in each city. and thats great that you love columbus, but like others have mentioned you tend to bash cleveland or cincy to make columbus seem better. imo my favorite metros/regions of the state are cleveland, cincy then columbus. im biased, i like being near our great lake with all the things that go with it... from the beautiful/romantic sunsets on a hot summer night, boating, partying out on the lake, sunbathing, fishing, jet-sking, watching para-sailing and sail-surfing at edgewater beach or headlands beach. if you cant live near the ocean, the great-lakes are the next best thing imo.
How is 2.1 million 2x 1.8 million? Interesting math. Even if you take the CSA instead of the MSA, neither Cincinnati or Cleveland are twice the size of Columbus, even throwing in Akron and Dayton.

I have not bashed Cleveland or Cincinnati to make Columbus better. Stating estabilished facts like population growth rates is NOT a subjective opinion. Saying something like Cleveland is more diverse or fun ARE subjective statements, simply because what constitutes diversity or fun is not black and white.
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Old 04-17-2011, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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This nonsense again?
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