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Old 09-12-2016, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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Millions of people in the New York City metro area are descended from southerners who migrated to New York at the same time Southerners populated southern Ohio.

These New Yorkers of Southern ancestry eat Southern food, say "Y'all" (as opposed to "youse" or "you guys"), and have distinct accents. They make up a significant portion of the population of Harlem, the South Bronx, much of Brooklyn and many of the suburbs, as well as northern New Jersey and Connecticut's urban areas.

So why does no one call New York City a Southern city?
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Arch City
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One time while working at a restaurant in LA, I had a family on vacation. They had a Southern accent so I asked where they were from. They said Cincinnati. I was shocked.

I wouldn't say Cincinnati and Southern Ohio as a whole are Southern, but obvious influences. Cincinnati is basically the opposite of Louisville. Louisville is a Southern city with very strong Midwest influences. Cincinnati is a Midwest city with very strong Southern influences. I find them very similar.
How can they be similar if they're opposites?
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:21 AM
 
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Southerners living in the north don't make the north the south.

Northerners living in the south don't make the south the north.

Florida is still a southern state. Ohio is still a northern state. A lot of Mexicans live in Texas but Texas is not part of Mexico as a result. A lot of Chinese live in California but California is not part of China as a result. New York contains many Canadian transplants but is not part of Canada as a result.

Ohio is a northern state with southern transplants and southern influence. Makes sense being around the border.
What about Maryland and Delaware?
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:24 AM
 
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How can they be similar if they're opposites?
Because they both straddle the border between Southern and Midwest. I guess it's hard to explain if you haven't been to both or know people from both. But their locations on the Ohio, just on opposite sides of it, make them pretty similar.
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Arch City
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Because they both straddle the border between Southern and Midwest. I guess it's hard to explain if you haven't been to both or know people from both. But their locations on the Ohio, just on opposite sides of it, make them pretty similar.
Cincinnati is a decidely Midwestern city, Louisville is a decidedly Southern one. They don't exactly straddle the border...straddling the border means they don't have any complete identity towards one region or the other and that's simply not true for either city.
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Old 09-12-2016, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Because they both straddle the border between Southern and Midwest. I guess it's hard to explain if you haven't been to both or know people from both. But their locations on the Ohio, just on opposite sides of it, make them pretty similar.
They are quite different. I spent the last year living in Cinci and now live in Louisville. Cincinnati is midwestern mixed with applachia, but not Southern. Louisville is very southern. Its crazy how different these two cities are considering they are only 88 miles from each other.
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Old 09-12-2016, 02:57 PM
 
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They are quite different. I spent the last year living in Cinci and now live in Louisville. Cincinnati is midwestern mixed with applachia, but not Southern. Louisville is very southern. Its crazy how different these two cities are considering they are only 88 miles from each other.
To me, Louisville is perhaps moderately Southern...you can tell it's Southern, but it doesn't scream "Southern" at the tops of its lungs. Very Southern to me would be Birmingham or Memphis.
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Old 09-13-2016, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Arch City
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To me, Louisville is perhaps moderately Southern...you can tell it's Southern, but it doesn't scream "Southern" at the tops of its lungs. Very Southern to me would be Birmingham or Memphis.
Louisville is more Southern than anything else. Therefore it's Southern.
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Old 09-13-2016, 08:42 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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The Bob Evans chain of restaurants originated in southern Ohio in Gallipolis.

Its menu still offers grits and mush, not mainstay offerings in most of Ohio, although mush was popular on Ohio farms in the past.
The original restaurant which I have bene to is only 10 miles from the West Virginia border at Point Pleasant and Bob Evans's original sausage business spanned both sides- it was far more popular on the WV side, and it was also initially marketed toward Southerners traveling that route, including truckers, going from Cleveland and Columbus to the Southeast and WV. Overall the Bob Evans menu still isn't quite as Southern as let's say Waffle House and Cracker Barrel.
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