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As the discussion heats up, remember to respect each other, ok ?
Yac. |
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What does: Rockefeller Standard Oil Cleveland being the 5th largest city in the US Have to do with 2008? How do any of these points helps Cleveland's growth today? If your answer is yes, then how? If your answer is no, then why'd you bring them up? |
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the argument, "cleveland is bigger because it used to be a giant" doesn't work with cincinnati because it too was major at a point in time. whether it's 1840 or 1920, it's not now. the two cities are on different cycles. cinci was 6th biggest in 1840 and bottomed out 50 years later. cleveland was 5th biggest in 1920 and bottomed out 50 years later. btw, cincinnati had 115,435 in 1850. cleveland had 17,034, 848 less folks than columbus.
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here's that population link...it's interesting to look at the 1800's top 10 and see what cities were able to overcome their crime and social issues and explode (stl, phila) and what cities were crippled and grew slower (baltimore, boston, cincinnati).
Population of the 100 Largest Cities and Other Urban Places In The United States: 1790 to 1990 |
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1st of all, this whole argument is a joke. I wasnt being serious about anything, its all just for fun.
Also, Cincy-Rise. I was talking about you, not me. I was saying that you brought up Cincinnati was the 6th largest city (in 1840). I guess that was okay for you, but when I do the same thing you did (bring up Standard Oil) you say that its not relevant, when I was doing the same thing you did, but I guess it was okay for you to do it. I brought them up to show Clevelands history, and that it used to be even more important and large than it is now. Most people remember that Detroit used to be a giant as far as manufacturing (and still is), and population, and people remember when Detroit was nicer and had jobs, same can be said for Cleveland and its history. As far as why I brought them up, John D. Rockefeller helped Cleveland grow and shaped it to what the city was in its prime, also the size issue, those impacts are still felt in the city, so they are relevant. I was stating what things came from Cleveland. Like I said, it was all in good fun, no offense meant. |
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Lets calm down guys. This thread has had a long history. We wouldn't want it to shut down because of a few arguements.
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