Cincinnati MSA to surpass Cleveland MSA in population this year (Columbus: showing, suburbs)

[censusdata]

One more thing..

Cincinnati and Dayton aren't GROWING together, they are SPRAWLING together

Hamilton County is on pace to LOSE 70,000 residents in this decade. Montgomery County is also losing population. By comparison, the counties Indianapolis, Louisville, Columbus, Nashville, and Memphis are in is GAINING population

The "growth" is simply businesses moving from the Cinci and Dayton to rural areas in between

[Cincy-Rise]

Originally Posted by censusdata

The Dallas/ Ft Worth comparisons are hillarious!

In that they use driving patterns?

Cincinnati and Dayton aren't GROWING together, they are SPRAWLING together

I won't argue with this ... same can be said for any metro, especially Dallas/FTW.

The "growth" is simply businesses moving from the Cinci and Dayton to rural areas in between

... Cincinnati is growing, slowly but surely ... this can't be said for a lot of major midwestern cities.


The fact is and I believe what our argument is based on ... is the fact that Cincinnati's MSA is growing. Do you disagree?


BTW, where is the link(s) that talks about Butler County not being in Cincy's MSA?

[MABCle]

To throw yet another monkey wrench into this, the Cleveland and Akron MSAs are likely to be merged into one MSA by 2010, since the urbanized areas of the two are now completely merged, another criterion for merging metros. This will create a metro area of 2,900,000. They are already a CSA.

Another reason (Major reason) for Cincinnati gaining so quickly on Cleveland (Besides out-migration) is in 2003 Ashtabula county was taken out of the Cleveland MSA and thus reduced the MSA's population from 2,250,000 to below 2,150,000.

[Traveler87]

Louisville is NOT GROWING. They incorporated the whole county of Jefferson. The city had a population of what 260,000 if that before they did so, and it was declining then. Louisville even after the annexation is still showing declines. Cincinnati is growing, not only in the city, but the metro population as well.

Cincinnati-Middletown, OH-KY-IN",Metropolitan Statistical Area,"2,104,218","2,090,968","2,074,789","2,059,31 9","2,044,916","2,032,249","2,014,625","2,009,673" ,"2,009,632"

"Louisville-Jefferson County, KY-IN",Metropolitan Statistical Area,"1,222,216","1,210,182","1,200,526","1,190,27 5","1,180,924","1,172,777","1,165,197","1,162,409" ,"1,161,975"


City Population Growths:

Cincinnati city,Ohio,"332,252","331,310","

Louisville/Jefferson County (balance),Kentucky,"554,496","555,899","

Population Estimates - U.S. Census Bureau

[stx12499]

Originally Posted by Traveler87

Louisville is NOT GROWING. They incorporated the whole county of Jefferson. The city had a population of what 260,000 if that before they did so, and it was declining then. Louisville even after the annexation is still showing declines. Cincinnati is growing, not only in the city, but the metro population as well.

Cincinnati-Middletown, OH-KY-IN",Metropolitan Statistical Area,"2,104,218","2,090,968","2,074,789","2,059,31 9","2,044,916","2,032,249","2,014,625","2,009,673" ,"2,009,632"

"Louisville-Jefferson County, KY-IN",Metropolitan Statistical Area,"1,222,216","1,210,182","1,200,526","1,190,27 5","1,180,924","1,172,777","1,165,197","1,162,409" ,"1,161,975"


City Population Growths:

Cincinnati city,Ohio,"332,252","331,310","

Louisville/Jefferson County (balance),Kentucky,"554,496","555,899","

Population Estimates - U.S. Census Bureau

What? Louisville is growing faster than Cincinnati in EVERY category, so it is growing. The city, MSA, and CSA all are growing faster than Cincy. Also, please realize that the census defined "city" of Louisville does NOT include all of Jefferson County, even though it is governed that way. Jefferson County has a 2006 estimate of 701,500.

[Traveler87]

Originally Posted by stx12499

What? Louisville is growing faster than Cincinnati in EVERY category, so it is growing. The city, MSA, and CSA all are growing faster than Cincy. Also, please realize that the census defined "city" of Louisville does NOT include all of Jefferson County, even though it is governed that way. Jefferson County has a 2006 estimate of 701,500.

Ok then that takes us back to the CITY of Louisville and their DECLINING population of 256,000.

[unusualfire]

Cleveland-Akron-Canton should be one CSA in 2010.
Cincinnati-Dayton should be one CSA in 2010.

Call it a wash. Both area's are lagging the US, well up until the economy tanks.

[Traveler87]

9% for Cincinnati really isnt that bad, and if Cleveland can get Akron/Canton back they could be looking at over 3% in growth like before.

[unusualfire]

New county Census numbers are out. These number are assuming neither MSA gained or lose any counties in their MSA.

Cincinnati-Middletown MSA 2,133,678.
Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor MSA 2,096,471.

It looks like Las Vegas will pass them both by next year. Which has 2,075,393.

[Cle440]

If the Cleveland MSA decides to add Akron/Canton (which is connected to Cleveland in many ways and very close), than the population would be over 3.5 million. If Cincinnati adds Dayton the population would be 3.1 million.

And about Las Vegas: that city/area shouldnt be allowed to grow anymore at all. They have no water out there and its in the middle of the desert, I dont understand why anyone would actually want to live there anyway. Las Vegas/Phoenix and all the rest of the desert cities are just wasting the US resources for no reason. They shouldnt allow any more growth in the desert at all.