Kansas City vs Oklahoma City (Tulsa, Newcastle: condo, crime rates, neighborhood)

[Bass&Catfish2008]

Originally Posted by kcmo

I don't even live in KC anymore and there is a good possibility that I could be living in OKC in the next year or two.

So who knows. Maybe it will grow on me .

Why take a chance like that? Just because the standard of living is a tad better?

Risky, risky.

Why don't you just move back to KC? Apparently, that's where you're from and what you like in a city.

[knrstz]

I'd take KC's weather 3 out of 4 seasons. OKC definately has a more mild winter. It's not uncommong to have days in the 60's and 70's in OKC. Whereas that warmfront might not make it north to KC or if it does it's only in the 50's. KC is definatley more humid in the summer, but if that humidity means more trees and greenery, it's worth it to me.

[okie1962]

I never cared for winters in KC. Seems it was always overcast and cold and depressing.

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by okie1962

I never cared for winters in KC. Seems it was always overcast and cold and depressing.

I am originally from KC and can tell you that KC winters are not that grey at all compared to anywhere in the Great Lakes or Ohio Valley. No contest. I have lived in NW Indiana downwind from Lake Michigan (cloudy in winter 75-80% of the time,) and Ohio Valley- cloudy during winter 75-85% of the time!

KC I would say only 30-40% of winter days are cloudy at best.

[eddie gein]

Originally Posted by knrstz

I'd take KC's weather 3 out of 4 seasons. OKC definately has a more mild winter. It's not uncommong to have days in the 60's and 70's in OKC. Whereas that warmfront might not make it north to KC or if it does it's only in the 50's. KC is definatley more humid in the summer, but if that humidity means more trees and greenery, it's worth it to me.

Three seasons out of four. Let's see here.

Average Highs:

Jan:
OKC-47 KC- 38
Feb:
OKC-54 KC- 44
March:
OKC- 63 KC- 56
April:
OKC- 71 KC- 67
May:
OKC- 79 KC- 76
June:
OKC- 87 KC- 86
July:
OKC- 93 KC- 90
August:
OKC- 92 KC- 89
Sept:
OKC- 84 KC- 80
Oct:
OKC- 73 KC- 69
Nov:
OKC- 60 KC- 53
Dec:
OKC- 50 KC- 42


It would appear that although you think KC's weather is "better" for three out of four seasons, it looks like OKC is appreciably warmer from November through March and there isn't that much difference between the two cities regarding temperature the rest of the year.

Throwing in your tree produced humidity, OKC is probably no worse in the summer than KC.

[GraniteStater]

I must have lots of trees that is why I don't care for Oklahoma City's climate. Bordering on the semi-arid to say the least.

[knrstz]

Originally Posted by eddie gein

Three seasons out of four. Let's see here.

Average Highs:

Jan:
OKC-47 KC- 38
Feb:
OKC-54 KC- 44
March:
OKC- 63 KC- 56
April:
OKC- 71 KC- 67
May:
OKC- 79 KC- 76
June:
OKC- 87 KC- 86
July:
OKC- 93 KC- 90
August:
OKC- 92 KC- 89
Sept:
OKC- 84 KC- 80
Oct:
OKC- 73 KC- 69
Nov:
OKC- 60 KC- 53
Dec:
OKC- 50 KC- 42


It would appear that although you think KC's weather is "better" for three out of four seasons, it looks like OKC is appreciably warmer from November through March and there isn't that much difference between the two cities regarding temperature the rest of the year.

Throwing in your tree produced humidity, OKC is probably no worse in the summer than KC.

Your stats really have no bearing on my preference because it's an opinion. OKC can be very humid too. It just depends if its a dry or wet year, whereas KC consistently gets more rain and humidity. I'll take KC summers of OKC, even though both can be uncomfortable, simply because I like green. December, January and February I'd prefer OKC's climate. I prefer KC's spring and fall due to more plant life and foliage. I'm not hating on OKC, it's just my preference.

[eddie gein]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

I must have lots of trees that is why I don't care for Oklahoma City's climate. Bordering on the semi-arid to say the least.

The eastern side of OKC has a multitude of trees. It's certainly not "semi arid".

In fact in 1832 when Washington Irving came through the area he called it "the cast iron forest" and described the fact that his party had to use machetes to get through the forest.

[knrstz]

Originally Posted by eddie gein

The eastern side of OKC has a multitude of trees. It's certainly not "semi arid".

In fact in 1832 when Washington Irving came through the area he called it "the cast iron forest" and described the fact that his party had to use machetes to get through the forest.

I was visiting my inlaws in OKC last weekend and it's going to be tough to convince me that OKC isn't semi arid. Virtually all grass is brown. Many trees are so dry the leaves are crispy on the ends. Also, there are wildfires all over the place. OKC is pretty green in the spring and early summer. Late summer and fall vary each year. The last two summers have ended very dry in Oklahoma. It's pretty simple, you get more rain as you go east and less as you go west. KC's natural setting is greener and has more trees than OKC. OKC looks barren in comparrison. Compare OKC to Amarillo, and OKC looks like a forrest. It's all about what you are used to. Oklahoma has some beautiful areas, I just don't find that OKC is really that pretty. Tulsa is a much prettier setting. However I don't like Tulsa, I'd take OKC all day over that.

[_redbird_]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

I must have lots of trees that is why I don't care for Oklahoma City's climate. Bordering on the semi-arid to say the least.

I am with you on that note (loving trees). I liked the rolling hills of northeastern KS. I lived in Lawrence and Manhattan, so I can't really contribute to this thread. But I loved northeastern KS. KC is a great place to visit, but it does nothing for me in general.

For me, OK in general holds more of a cultural beacon. I love being around my Native People. Hard to explain, but it feels good to be around NDN people. Although there are quite a few "skins" in northeast KS, I call Oklahoma home because it is where my people are from.

And I'll take college football over NFL any day.