OKC really a C? (Oklahoma City, Tulsa: low crime, luxury, construction)

[Nameless]

Umm, why ask this question? You obviously don't think very highly of the place.

But as for my point, aren't professional sports enough? OKC is a new area, give it some time.

[Griffis]

Professional sports enough to make a place a city? That's real sad.

I live just outside of OKC. I lived IN OKC for years, worked there even longer.

I'd say, it's a city compared to any other place in this godforsaken state except Tulsa. It's just a real lame, smallish, incredibly crappy ugly city. Tulsa is slightly less lame and ugly.

[Sooner-On-The-Move]

Of course, it's a city. I have yet to see a definition of "city" that requires overpopulation. Oklahoma City is the capital of the state. Providence, Rhode Island is considered a city, and that whole STATE is smaller than Oklahoma City.

Plus, now OKC has the Hornets, so by that definition, it's also a city.

[recipecard]

My vote: Rush Hour Traffic...we have it!

[Check123]

All places are designated as cities; the post office identifies them by city and state. But OKC is not a city based on stricter definitions.

Originally Posted by Sooner-On-The-Move

Of course, it's a city. I have yet to see a definition of "city" that requires overpopulation. Oklahoma City is the capital of the state. Providence, Rhode Island is considered a city, and that whole STATE is smaller than Oklahoma City.

Plus, now OKC has the Hornets, so by that definition, it's also a city.

[Jammie]

Check, what is your definition of a city?

[Check123]

"A city is an urban area that is differentiated from a town, village, or hamlet by size, population density, importance, or legal status. In most parts of the world, cities are generally substantial and nearly always have an urban core."

OKC is a city in comparison to other areas in OK, but not when compared to other cities in the world. And what about medium sized towns; when do they become cities, when does the definition change?

If OKC is a city with a population of 500,000... what about a town of 249,000, or 299,000?

Originally Posted by Jammie

Check, what is your definition of a city?

[Sooner-On-The-Move]

I consider Tulsa a city, as well as OKC. Tulsa's pop. is about 275,000. By your definition, importance and legality define a city as such. Therefore, by your definition, Oklahoma City is a "city," as it is the capital of the state. Tulsa is a "city" because of its importance in the state.

I wouldn't consider Ponca City a "City," but it is because it is separated from the towns around it by population and density.

Check, it seems that, by your definition, a "city" is defined by its differences from SURROUNDING towns/villas/hamlets, etc. So by said definition, Tulsa, Oklahoma City, Ponca City, Stillwater, Claremore, and other places that I'd call "towns" are cities.

[Check123]

A city is defined in comparison to towns, etc., not necessarily compared to those towns surrounding it.

Importance is a relative term. Does its importance deminish if it relates to a state or region; does importance have to relate to a country, continent, or the world?

Legally, most any town can be considered a city. But I suppose it gets city status by default, even though it may be on paper only.

Does OKC keep its city status when compared to Tokyo?

Originally Posted by Sooner-On-The-Move

I consider Tulsa a city, as well as OKC. Tulsa's pop. is about 275,000. By your definition, importance and legality define a city as such. Therefore, by your definition, Oklahoma City is a "city," as it is the capital of the state. Tulsa is a "city" because of its importance in the state.

I wouldn't consider Ponca City a "City," but it is because it is separated from the towns around it by population and density.

Check, it seems that, by your definition, a "city" is defined by its differences from SURROUNDING towns/villas/hamlets, etc. So by said definition, Tulsa, Oklahoma City, Ponca City, Stillwater, Claremore, and other places that I'd call "towns" are cities.

[cleosmom]

Originally Posted by Check123

True, but a town of 300,000 would seem small compared to a town of 3,000,000.

There's got to be more to it than just population.

I would classify some place with 3,000,000 a huge mess and total avenue for claustrophobia

I live in a 'city' of 50,000 + and I still call it 'town', when we moved here it was around 30,000 which was smaller than where we came from that was at 500,000.

IMO OKC is a city by all definitions.