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Old 01-18-2016, 07:54 AM
 
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My wife and I are relocating to OKC as empty-nesters (e.g., K-12 schools are not a consideration) and have found what looks like a relatively nice and apparently safe neighborhood within 10 minutes of my work at Tinker (near Sooner and I-240 in SE OKC). For crime data see:
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While not in Moore or Del City based on my knowledge of the area, I am fairly sure that this area is in line with the path that many of the severe tornadoes tend to travel in OKC (see: Tornado History Project: Oklahoma), but we like its proximity to Tinker and its more central location within OKC.

We are also interested more generally in the area of OKC bounded roughly by Tinker, I-35, I-40, and I-240. We have not yet found a name for this area, though the portion nearest I-35 and I-240 may be called Valley Brook. Note: The crime data seems rather mixed for this more general area of SE OKC, as it does for Del City.

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Old 01-18-2016, 01:11 PM
 
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My wife and I are relocating to OKC as empty-nesters (e.g., K-12 schools are not a consideration) and have found what looks like a relatively nice and apparently safe neighborhood within 10 minutes of my work at Tinker (near Sooner and I-240 in SE OKC). For crime data see:
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While not in Moore or Del City based on my knowledge of the area, I am fairly sure that this area is in line with the path that many of the severe tornadoes tend to travel in OKC (see: Tornado History Project: Oklahoma), but we like its proximity to Tinker and its more central location within OKC.

We are also interested more generally in the area of OKC bounded roughly by Tinker, I-35, I-40, and I-240. We have not yet found a name for this area, though the portion nearest I-35 and I-240 may be called Valley Brook. Note: The crime data seems rather mixed for this more general area of SE OKC, as it does for Del City.
That corridor has a stigma (an exaggeration in my opinion) of crime. It may be somewhat justified as there are some rough looking neighborhoods mixed in with suburbia type neighborhoods just east of the old Crossroads Mall. Crossroads was one of the nicest malls in the state at one point, but apparent gang activity along with newer malls/strip shopping centers sprung up and hurt business.

I drive in that area/corridor often and have not witnessed any crime myself. However, I do not live there. It seems to be a perfectly decent area, and I'm quite sure many folks that work at Tinker probably live in those neighborhoods.

Many blessings as ya'll find an area that works for you.

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Old 01-18-2016, 01:45 PM
 
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Thank you again, BassandCatfish. Is there a significant difference between this area and Del City?
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Old 01-18-2016, 08:37 PM
 
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Thank you again, BassandCatfish. Is there a significant difference between this area and Del City?
This is a good question. To me, the initial area you talked about is not too much different than Del City. It's only approximately 5-10 miles south of what is considered Del City.

Having said that, Del City is known for its crime and such. Most of Del City would resemble some of the more run down/tougher parts of the corridor that you're asking about. As we've noted, however, there are some nice suburban neighborhoods on the southside of I-240 & Sooner and points east. Del City has little to none of that.
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Old 01-18-2016, 09:18 PM
 
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I-240 and Sooner is a decent area. I would avoid Del City, and if looking in Midwest City I would say stick to the Douglass Ave area and points east.
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Old 01-19-2016, 12:27 AM
 
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I think I'm going to catch some flak for this, but here is MY OPINION on that area. I think it's sometimes called the "Tinker Diagonal", although that may be referring to a specific road that runs just north of the AFB.

Green = Would live and not be too worried. Mix of blue collar and white collar
Yellow = Would live if not much choice, but have good insurance and try to keep a low profile. Mostly blue collar.
Red = Never in my life


(this is not a precise thing -- I may have some areas in a color that are not deserving of that color)

East of Midwest City is actually where you can get some real bargains on acreage+ lots and newer homes. You won't be near much, but if you're an empty nester then I figure you'll just make a weekly trip to the store and that type of thing.

Tornadoes seem to get really weak as they approach this area, so I wouldn't worry. That area also seems unaffected by earthquakes.

Since you're working at Tinker, then traffic is not even an issue. You can get around very easily in that area. But, lucky for you, if you need to go downtown or across the city, I40 tends to be a lot more smooth flowing than I35.

Also you're close to Lake Stanley Draper which is not a bad place to go fish or boating.
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Old 01-19-2016, 07:31 AM
 
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ALL: These replies are truly helpful and encouraging. I am hoping that we can find a rental property in this area east of Tinker (past Douglas Blvd), but so far none have a storm shelter which is a 'must-have' for us. Fortunately, the area just south of Del City (in SE OKC) has had one so far.
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Old 01-19-2016, 10:05 AM
 
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ALL: These replies are truly helpful and encouraging. I am hoping that we can find a rental property in this area east of Tinker (past Douglas Blvd), but so far none have a storm shelter which is a 'must-have' for us. Fortunately, the area just south of Del City (in SE OKC) has had one so far.

I wouldn't let the lack of a storm shelter deter you from buying a great home. They can always be installed separately for anywhere from $2500-$4000 (and you can pick where it is installed!).
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Old 01-20-2016, 09:36 AM
 
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Thank you, fiberpills. If we were planning to buy, I would agree with you. We are, however, looking at renting first before buying as we are not sure how long we will be in OKC, so the house we rent would need to have a storm shelter installed prior to renting. It seems that very few (actually just one so far) of the rent houses in SE OKC, Midwest City, or Choctaw have storm shelters, which is surprising given the tornado threat there. Notably, Moore, Norman, Mustang, Yukon, and especially Edmond all have several rent houses with storm shelters. It is early in the year though as I expect more rent houses to go on the market in the spring.
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Old 01-20-2016, 08:11 PM
 
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Thank you, fiberpills. If we were planning to buy, I would agree with you. We are, however, looking at renting first before buying as we are not sure how long we will be in OKC, so the house we rent would need to have a storm shelter installed prior to renting. It seems that very few (actually just one so far) of the rent houses in SE OKC, Midwest City, or Choctaw have storm shelters, which is surprising given the tornado threat there. Notably, Moore, Norman, Mustang, Yukon, and especially Edmond all have several rent houses with storm shelters. It is early in the year though as I expect more rent houses to go on the market in the spring.

Ah I see.. yes renting initially is going to limit your options.

Honestly, I think the reason you don't see too many storm shelters out in that direction is because there haven't been any serious tornado hits out in that direction in some time. Not trying to say you're going to be 100% safe, but the storm line in the Spring always goes from West to East and tapers off once it travels over the core of OKC. Some think the heat from the buildings helps kill the severity.. or maybe it's the taller buildings that block ground level wind. I tend to think this explains why the west side of the metro tends to get hit quite regularly since all that flat plains land out there lets the storm build up.

On the other hand, in recent years Moore, Yukon, and north Mustang have had direct hits or close calls. Norman has had one tornado that went through the downtown area a few years ago, but the city as a whole hasn't been affected by anything more than hail since Hall Park got hit a few decades ago.

In your search for rental properties, I think your best bet would be to find a newer constructed home since those are more likely to have the storm shelter built in as a feature. On older properties, you may need to inquire with the owner as it was common back in the day to have a shelter buried in the backyard.

And depending on the timing of when you arrive in OKC and when you plan on buying, you can probably not worry about this requirement at all. April and May are the months to avoid, so if you moved here in June, then you'd have until March of the next year to move into your dream home.

And a last bit -- something you can consider. My neighbor and good friend has a unique storm shelter that he actually won through a city run raffle. Rather than being buried into the slab or in the backyard, it's a self contained sort of "cylinder" that was bolted down to the foundation in his garage. It has storm rated doors, massive bolts, and is constructed of at least 8 gauge steel. I would have no concerns about one of these being able to protect you in even an EF5 hit. You could look into buying one of these to have installed in the rental home and then take it with you when you purchase a home.

Here's an article to reassure you on the above ground shelters:

Oklahoma tornadoes: Aboveground shelters stood up in face of EF5 Moore tornado | News OK
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