OKC vs Memphis (Tulsa, Perkins, Pawnee: school, college, living in)

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by pds58

I have been living in Memphis for over 5 years...and have been looking to leave for about 2. I have had some preliminary talks with a company in OKC about moving there...but am a little afraid of pulling the trigger on the deal because I want to move somewhere much nicer than Memphis. To my wife and I, Memphis is dirty, backward, boring, and unsafe. What can you tell me about Oklahoma City that would make taking this job viable? I really don't want to trade one bad situation for more of the same.

Is OKC a more progressive city? Is it growing in the right ways in terms of the city and not just adding new suburbs? Please don't reference the NBA team, because we have the Grizzlies and truthfully one of the best arenas in the NBA and it hasn't meant anything and hasn't helped revitialize the town at all. Any answers are greatly appreciated-especially anyone that can give direct comparisons between OKC an Memphis and why OKC would indeed be better. Thanks for your help.

My opinion and it is just that, OKC is a much better place to raise a family especially if you get into the Moore school district, it might be More. I am not sure, but am basing this on what my granddaughter learned when she and hubby bought their first home a few years ago. there was a period of time they were not sold on OKC but have learned to love it.

OKC is growing fast, but I don't think so fast that they will face major problems, of course there is crime like everywhere: probably not as bad as Memphis. In fact it isn't anything like Memphis.

Whether wise, you will find it a little less humid probably and maybe a little milder in the winter, that I am not positive about.

No, we won't mention NBA, you are right. Of course OKC has the Sooners, could resist that one.

If you move with a good attitude and look at the opportunities you will be very happy...

Although Ok overall is very conservative, you will get a wide range of views in OKC as it is more progressive.

NIta

[colleeng47]

Originally Posted by Mom2My3

you don't have to give me a history lesson. My point was to let this person with the bad attitude about OK to realize what she/he has and that OK is really a great place to live. They take care of their own people very well. It was not meant to offend a Pawnee.

I'm sorry, but I didn't realize me being speechless was actually a history lesson. Shows you what I know.

If you spent any amount of time at all on this forum, you would know that the "person with the bad attitude" is one of OK's most loyal natives and many of the things he says are done tongue in cheek.

And I didn't feel your post was derogatory, I felt it was condescending.

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by Lvpunk

Well, I hope you enjoy OKC. I wouldn't hardly compare it to Phoenix though, made me smile a bit, nothing like Phoenix really. Oklahoma City is much like you described Memphis, it's a "big small town," which comes with certain charms and cons. It's spread out like Memphis is as well. Memphis in my opinion is culturally significant, with it's history, music, and food, it's a shame that it has become so ridden with crime. I would compare OKC to other midwestern cities while Memphis is more of a Southern city. To be honest, I think comparable cities would be places like Omaha, Wichita, Ft Worth (if you take away Dallas), Little Rock, and maybe Kansas City, though all cities have something that make them unique. If you like the weather in Memphis, then you'll like it here too, the weather is one of my favorite things about OKC with the cool electrical and thunder storms and ice storms in the winter, very pretty to see OKC covered in white from the ice and occasional snow, I have yet to see a tornado in person unfortunately, it was one of the things I was really hoping to see in my 5 years here.

I think the Phoenix referance had to do with the future. I don't know how much you know about Phoenix even 20 years ago, but it was just there: then it became what it is today. I do not think OKC is much like Memphis. Unfortunately Memphis may be a dieing town, OKC is a city going somewhere. Do you know OKC is one of the few metro areas where property values have actually increased in the past few years?

Nita

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by colleeng47

OMG, for once in my life, I am truly speechless! I don't know whether to scream or wind my watch. Instead, I will log off for the night.

Colleen, you know i don't always agree with you, especially on the native America issues, but this time I do, I can't believe anyone could think that way and then have the gull to post it....

[Mom2My3]

Originally Posted by nmnita

Colleen, you know i don't always agree with you, especially on the native America issues, but this time I do, I can't believe anyone could think that way and then have the gull to post it....

Evidently you and Colleen have both taken what I said the wrong way. I was not insulting anyone. You know it is a shame that emails and posts are often taken wrong. My reply to the Goodpasture person was to let them know they are insulting Oklahomans as a whole and if they are a native Oklahoman or a Native American (their profile says Pawnee Nation) then they have nothing to complain about since the state is actually very good to them....I think any Native American would agree.
Please do not let Colleen make me out to be a racist or something I am not since my comments were misunderstood.

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by Mom2My3

Evidently you and Colleen have both taken what I said the wrong way. I was not insulting anyone. You know it is a shame that emails and posts are often taken wrong. My reply to the Goodpasture person was to let them know they are insulting Oklahomans as a whole and if they are a native Oklahoman or a Native American (their profile says Pawnee Nation) then they have nothing to complain about since the state is actually very good to them....I think any Native American would agree.
Please do not let Colleen make me out to be a racist or something I am not since my comments were misunderstood.

ok, you are probably right; the biggest problem we face when on these forums is being misunderstood as we can't see each others jestures, only words that are often taken wrong...Colleen has very strong opinions about Native Americans, the past and their rights....

Nita

[Mom2My3]

Originally Posted by colleeng47

I'm sorry, but I didn't realize me being speechless was actually a history lesson. Shows you what I know.

If you spent any amount of time at all on this forum, you would know that the "person with the bad attitude" is one of OK's most loyal natives and many of the things he says are done tongue in cheek.

And I didn't feel your post was derogatory, I felt it was condescending.

Colleen
I was not insinuating you were giving me a history lesson....I was stating, to all, that I know the history behind the government assistance for Native Americans. You are very defensive for some reason.
I was trying to make this right and explain I was not trying to insult anyone. I was stating facts. AND...I don't care if GoodPasture is being sarcastic or not....you don't make the nasty comments that he/she did. Did you miss the one where he/she told the person to go to Little Rock because maybe he had not spent enough time in Memphis to earn a place in Oklahoma? First of all....I was insulted as an Oklahoman and then as someone who currently resides in Memphis (even though I don't like it here).
This is ridiculous you would make this out to be something it is not. You can't even see that I am trying to make this right. I can't believe you would stick up for someone who makes such nasty remarks about OK.

[Mom2My3]

Originally Posted by nmnita

ok, you are probably right; the biggest problem we face when on these forums is being misunderstood as we can't see each others jestures, only words that are often taken wrong...Colleen has very strong opinions about Native Americans, the past and their rights....

Nita

Thank you. I appreciate that. I did notice Colleen is actually a native of New Jersey and not Oklahoma. Maybe this why she did not understand my passion for Oklahoma. Maybe she did not think the other person was being rude....which they were!!! Looking at her profile, I am not sure why she has strong opinions about Native Americans. I would be curious to find out how she got to Oklahoma.....we all have stories....like I am now in Memphis, TN!!!

[Goodpasture]

Originally Posted by Mom2My3

My reply to the Goodpasture person was to let them know they are insulting Oklahomans as a whole

Considering I AM the "Goodpasture person" AND I am NA AND I am Native Oklahoman AND I live in the Pawnee Nation AND I know full well what I am talking about......on my place we have all I talked about......copperheads, tarantulas, scorpions, indians, hicks, cowboys, oilmen, and all the rest of the riffraff of a backwards society.......and none of the guys I talked to seemed concerned about what I said, but they are concerned that we might get a bunch of newbies moving in and changing things........we sure as heck (don't usually use the word heck, but am trying to be a polite backwards/indian/cowboy/hick....don't worry about the oilmen and other riffraff, they can't or don't read much anyway) need folks bringing their troubles and attitudes with them. And since none of those folk are offended, maybe the only folk I'm insulting and offending are those who moved away and lost their sense of humor on the road some where betwen here and there.

Originally Posted by Mom2My3

and if they are a native Oklahoman or a Native American (their profile says Pawnee Nation) then they have nothing to complain about since the state is actually very good to them....

It's actually MY profile. "Their" indicates more than one person, and since I am not schizophrenic, suffer from multiple personalities (not even sure I have ONE) or twins, your use is improper.

So when does the State of Sequoyah get formed? Or do we have to keep on living with those grandkids of immigrants that put a plow on our buffalo range?

Originally Posted by Mom2My3

I think any Native American would agree.

Actually I don't. I think the Native Americans in Oklahoma have been very good to Oklahoma.....we provided a diversity that most other states don't enjoy. If it weren't for the NA's here, (except for a straying Kiowa or two) we would be just like Kansas..........THEN who would give Texas a thumping at the Cotton Bowl?

Originally Posted by Mom2My3

Please do not let Colleen make me out to be a racist or something I am not since my comments were misunderstood.

Ok, Colleen, don't make her out to be a racist or somthing......she is perfectly capable of doing that herself............

[LadyRobyn]

OK Everyone let's take a deeeeeep breath here.

Most of us in this thread LOVE this state to the extent that we are seriously over-protective, and consider the least slight to be no different than insulting our Momma.

Mom2My3, I am going to ask you to slow down a bit...read more posts and get to know all of the regulars here. (Look at the post counts and the "join" dates) The vast majority of Goodpasture's posts are "Tongue-in-cheek" HUMOR... he IS Native American, LOVES this state and is one of the most helpful, valued posters here.

As a matter of fact you are among SEVERAL Native Americans, and quite a few Native Oklahomans here.

In this part of your post:

If you are a Pawnee Indian...I would not think you would have too much to complain about. Oklahoma seems to be generous to their local native american tribes. I can say this since I born and raised in Oklahoma. I know the money the local Indian tribes recieve. I know about the free or reduced price car tags. I know about the free educational opportunties availble to native americans. I know about the health care facilities just for tribe members. OK is very good to their native americans!!! They are very wealthy people with all of their smoke shops and casinos....many "special" tax benefits there!!

It SOUNDED as though you were saying that the state of Oklahoma has given Native Americans more than they could ever need on a silver platter, and has spoiled them rotten.

I gather that was NOT your intention but it did ruffle some feathers.

Understand, NONE of the regular posters here "hate" Oklahoma or they would NOT be here... so you are "defending" this state to the wrong folks.

Please take a breath and get to know everyone!! If you were born and raised here I'm sure your info would be very valuable.

To the rest of y'all, be nice and give her a chance to sort things out OK??

Except for GP... He can't be nice... it would give him a headache.