Liberal Atheist in Oklahoma City

[LadyRobyn]

Originally Posted by redbird4848

Let's just let this thread get back to the original topic.
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That is a VERY good idea...

[Goodpasture]

Now I know why I am so unhappy....there isn't an effing crumpet in 50 miles. Sorry, I think someone spelled it crumpit.....wouldn't want them to think I was criticizing......

but I understand perfectly what the white guy is saying. I walked through a part of London once, many years ago, and found people wanting to sell me all kinds of curry.....wanting genuine English food I chose, instead, to have a local dish called bubble and squeak.... I'm sure it was tasty the week before, when it had only been cooked for a few hours. I ended up eating curry........

Then there was New York......magnificent city. Certainly was exciting too.....saw one mugging, and a leisurely drive across Manhattan was enjoyable. That it only took 3 hours to go a few miles is irrelevant.

Yes, I can well imagine the horrendous time one must have if the only choice is a Toby Keith fried bologna sandwich or a beer pub's chicken fried steak.....and not a crumpit (got it right, that time) to be found anywhere......

[Photographie]

Of course you are going to feel defensive about your home. Everyone is! Do you think I enjoy all of the many jokes and jabs people give me when they find out that I am from Louisiana! But, sometimes the truth hurts. I have travelled all over the UK and other places in Europe and have spent considerable time there. It is absolutely beautiful. I absolutely loved it and would live there in a heartbeat. No, it is not home and not familiar and therefore I would have some problems fitting in. And, sure, I would experience discrimination from some of the people but that is to be expected.
Can many of you imagine what it is like to live so far from home and so far from what you are accustomed to? In another country? Not many of you can so you will never and can never understand. It is obviously a struggle and very hard. You have to put yourselves in someone else's shoes.
The things you are saying to LillyWhite are very inconsiderate and while he is not happy here it is because he probably can't relate to any of you.
Oh and for the record, crumpit has two spellings. There is British English and American English and they use different words and different spellings sometimes. So, you failed miserably with that insult and made yourself look like a fool.
As far as your Toby Keith bologna and your beer pub chicken fried steak goes, I would eat a curry over that any day. The food in Oklahoma City is awful and I have been there twice. You have no variety. It is the same thing everywhere you go. There is more variety where I live which is not nearly as big as OKC.
And as far as finding the definition of a big city and trying to apply it to OKC, who cares!! Why are you bending over backwards to prove it? Just get over it! What LillyWhite is getting at is that the city has no character. Like so many cities in America and all over the world. New Orleans, Austin, NYC, Boston, Chicago, Atlanta, L.A., Seattle and Miami are a few that have character. Oklahoma City is not one of them. Sure, you have your beloved Sooners but that is it.
Oh and might I add in response to GoodPasture's comment about the mugging in NYC...last time I was in OKC, I read a story in the local paper that said a man who was in a diabetic shock was tasered by police. He wasn't resisting arrest and was wearing a diabetic tag. Apparently that man ended up in a hospital. Crime and violence happens everywhere. Can't really use that as a scapegoat now can we. As far a long lines go, then it is probably worth going to see or even try. No worries of getting that in Oklahoma City, right?
Frankly, I would be unhappy living there myself and it is not because I hate Toby Keith music. It is because there is nothing to do and life, just like the food, is bland. I went to Oklahoma City with a positive attitude and had one right up until I read this thread. You wouldn't know Southern hospitality if it were beating the crap out of your precious Sooners. Maybe you should travel more and drop the pretentiousness so you can appreciate different cultures with an open mind. Maybe go to England and have a scone with fresh cream. Really, you don't know what you are missing. From experience, it is world's better than fried bologna...and Toby Keith.

[_redbird_]

Originally Posted by Photographie

Of course you are going to feel defensive about your home.

Actually, we make more jokes about Oklahoma ourselves. And atheists and liberals are most welcome as are world travelers. Personally I could care less if you are from Louisiana. It is the hateful character of Lilly's posts being addressed.

The fact that he does not like or relate to Oklahoma are personal issues that he needs to address. They do not justify his wannabe snobbery.

And his posts have warranted the response he received, plain and simple. Because as I stated Lilly's not being able to relate to people and hating on people are two different issues. So you are wasting your rescue efforts. He brought it on himself.

Using stereotypes about not liking cowboy hats and not liking pork meat are funny. Simply don't eat them and don't wear a cowboy hat. If I visited London and did not like certain foods or how certain people dress, (because not all okies wear cowboy hats, and even if they do, so what?) that does not mean I am going to start hating on the British people. Do you understand what I am saying?

It is obvious Lilly is unhappy and now wants to show his contempt and hatred for all things that he perceives as causing his unhappiness.

And the real joke is, he doesn't have the guts to walk up to native Oklahoman in or outside OKC and say it to their face. It's what we call a cell warrior. Someone who talks smack from behind the relative safety of an internet forum, i.e, cowardice.

[Mattie Jo]

Originally Posted by terveloc

I moved to Oklahoma City over a year ago for work. I moved here after living on the East Coast for many years. While I enjoy my job most days, I have had a *terrible* time here socially.

As the title of this thread indicates, I am quite liberal and, while I think theology is fascinating, I am myself an atheist.

Even worse, although I am young (early 20s), it seems like many many of the people I meet here who are my own age are very religious, conservative, anti-intellectual (or just poorly educated), and even married.

Is there any place for a young single person like myself to go in Oklahoma City where I might not be instantly judged upon exposition of my beliefs?


People called me a communist for voting for Obama. Seriously, guys? Has it come to this?


I've never had so much trouble making friends in my life.

Do they have a Unitarian Church there. They have a lot of atheists in that church. They don't have sermons either. I just call it a social gathering for liberals, atheists, new agers, and intellectuals. At least you can talk to people about Obama there.

I have lived here 3 years, and it took me a while to find people that thought like me. They didn't like my voting for Obama either.

I wish I could help you more but you are far from here.

[Goodpasture]

Originally Posted by Photographie

I have travelled all over the UK and other places in Europe and have spent considerable time there. It is absolutely beautiful.

Of course it is. I did live there for a couple of years. For the first 20 years of my adult life I was out of the country as much as I was in country. so lets not try comparing notes about who has seen what and where. the point I was attempting to make, which you obviously missed, is that each part of the world is different. I would no more expect stetsons in London than I would expect crumpits in OKC. They are different cities, with different cultures. And to hold the lack of a predisposed measure of culture against a community is the height of arrogance. OKC has a tremendous amount of culture and activities. It has almost everything the people that live there want. That some jerkwad from London doesn't find it attractive is, for most residents, a matter of complete indifference.

Originally Posted by Photographie

..... it is not home and not familiar and therefore I would have some problems fitting in. And, sure, I would experience discrimination from some of the people but that is to be expected.

Funny. When I lived there, and in Greece, in Norway, and in other countries, I had absolutely NO problem fitting in, I never experienced (at least I never recognized) discrimination. But then I embraced the local culture and never made disparaging remarks about how it wasn't like something back home.....I simply enjoyed the diversity and the new experiences and learned to enjoy what was there, not focus on what was not.

Originally Posted by Photographie

Can many of you imagine what it is like to live so far from home and so far from what you are accustomed to? In another country? Not many of you can so you will never and can never understand. It is obviously a struggle and very hard. You have to put yourselves in someone else's shoes.

If you get so homesick, maybe you should just stay home.

Originally Posted by Photographie

The things you are saying to LillyWhite are very inconsiderate and while he is not happy here it is because he probably can't relate to any of you.

Maybe he should just stay in London if he can't adapt and enjoy.......

Originally Posted by Photographie

As far as your Toby Keith bologna and your beer pub chicken fried steak goes, I would eat a curry over that any day.

Personal choice......but you don't get really good curry in OKC, nor would I expect (nor order) a CFS in London.

Originally Posted by Photographie

The food in Oklahoma City is awful and I have been there twice. You have no variety. It is the same thing everywhere you go. There is more variety where I live which is not nearly as big as OKC.

I disagree, but then we are discussing personal choice again. But you should also remember, that every part of the world caters to the population of that part......restaurants in Malaysia don't offer the same food as restaurants in London or Moscow or OKC.

Originally Posted by Photographie

What LillyWhite is getting at is that the city has no character.

And we all disagree.....we ALL like it the way it is. If HE doesn't like it, then don't let the door hit him in the butt.

Originally Posted by Photographie

Like so many cities in America and all over the world. New Orleans, Austin, NYC, Boston, Chicago, Atlanta, L.A., Seattle and Miami are a few that have character.

Every city has character. Every town and village has character. Even those areas outside cities and towns and villages have character. It simply requires the ability to recognize it and enjoy that which exists....something you and whitey obviously are incapable of doing.

Originally Posted by Photographie

Oh and might I add in response to GoodPasture's comment about the mugging in NYC...last time I was in OKC, I read a story in the local paper that said a man who was in a diabetic shock was tasered by police. He wasn't resisting arrest and was wearing a diabetic tag. Apparently that man ended up in a hospital.

There is a little difference between witnnessing and reading about it, isn't there?

Originally Posted by Photographie

Frankly, I would be unhappy living there myself and it is not because I hate Toby Keith music. It is because there is nothing to do and life, just like the food, is bland. I went to Oklahoma City with a positive attitude and had one right up until I read this thread. You wouldn't know Southern hospitality if it were beating the crap out of your precious Sooners. Maybe you should travel more and drop the pretentiousness so you can appreciate different cultures with an open mind. Maybe go to England and have a scone with fresh cream.

Been there, done that, got the tshirt.......I choose Oklahoma, hands down, each and every time.

Originally Posted by Photographie

Really, you don't know what you are missing.

Oh my....such a great and wise world traveler please enlighten us poor misinformed uneducation Indians and take pity and forive us our ignorance.....wado

[LadyRobyn]

The title of this thread was: Liberal Atheist in Oklahoma City The OP was looking for kindred souls and helpful info, not the purse-swinging contest of Oklahoma vs. UK that it has turned into.

If anyone has any HELPFUL info for the OP, feel free to DM him.

If you want to keep debating the finer points of Oklahoma vs. UK try the World forum: http://www.city-data.com/forum/world/ or the City vs City section: http://www.city-data.com/forum/city-vs-city/

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