From the Tundra (Minneapolis) to OKC - a few questions (Oklahoma City: transplants, city hall)

[Lillywhite]

Originally Posted by okcpulse

Perhaps you haven't traveled to neighboring states much, but if you think Oklahoma is the most religious, don't hesitate to visit the religious communes in Texas, along with the endless megachurches here in Houston. Or how about the numerous communities in Missouri that send their kids off to bible boot-camp in Colorado to become soldiers for God.

Coming from London, you're in a country FULL of mis-information. It would be saddening to know that you would actually buy into to endless banquets of bull**** the media serves up, and people eat it helping after helping.

Fair point. I have heard that Missouri and Kansas are more religious than Oklahoma. However, what surprises me about OKC specifically is that it is a large city, and the state capital, yet it is still massively religious. Sure you can find heavily religious "communes" in Texas, but the big cities, Dallas, Houston, Austin, are massively more progressive than OKC.

I'm not sure what your comments about the British media are about. Are you talking about the tabloids? Yes these are trash but Britain is renowned for good journalism.

[Lillywhite]

Originally Posted by jeid

I will admit though, as someone who has lived in the Europe and loved it, the fact that I'm getting negative feedback from Europeans is a concern. Just curious, lillywhite (you better not be a Spurs fan ) and irishlover, what is keeping you in OKC then based on your comments?

Yes, I'm a big Spurs fan - very deductive of you. Are you a Gooner by any chance? How I ended up in OKC is a long story and because of my area of work (academia) finding a suitable job elsewhere is difficult, but I plan on leaving this year.

[okcpulse]

Originally Posted by Lillywhite

Fair point. I have heard that Missouri and Kansas are more religious than Oklahoma. However, what surprises me about OKC specifically is that it is a large city, and the state capital, yet it is still massively religious. Sure you can find heavily religious "communes" in Texas, but the big cities, Dallas, Houston, Austin, are massively more progressive than OKC.

Dallas and Houston and more religious than you think. Austin not so much. I wouldn't really use religion to gauge how progressive a city is. Are you saying that Salt Lake City is not progressive? Wouldn't you agree if Oklahoma City's population growth picks up the pace, attracting thousands of young professionals, than a large enough community of such people would establish a stronger foothold in Oklahoma City. By keeping that from happening is pigeon-holing Oklahoma City.

To me, a progressive city is one that is investing heavily in its future by adding and improving its amenities, and is working to create a better business climate, like in Oklahoma City. A city that is not progressive is one with a government that sits on its hand and doesn't care to create a better climate, and its populace turns down package after package to help improve a city. I guess that is where our definition differs.

Originally Posted by Lillywhite

I'm not sure what your comments about the British media are about. Are you talking about the tabloids? Yes these are trash but Britain is renowned for good journalism.

No, not talking about Britain. I am talking about America. Britain has much better journalism and CNN, MSNBC and the other joke-tard networks could take a few lessons from your country's media outlets.

In your defense, when comparing Oklahoma City to other American cities, we're not on the level you would like to see. What is happening is that Oklahoma City is adding amenities long overdue and is working to create better quality of life. I guess you would have had to see Oklahoma City in 1993 to see what I am trying to drive home.

I can't wait to return to Oklahoma City (hopefully in a few years), because I want to do my part to make a difference for my city.

[Bass&Catfish2008]

Originally Posted by colleeng47

I know that, you misinterpreted my facetious comments.

I'm just so tired of listening to people who have already moved out of OK, or who wish they weren't here, criticize the state. If you love Texas, and it's a good move for you, great. Go on the Texas forum and you'll hear a lot of complaining there too.

Oklahoma forum used to be a fun and funny place to be. Now it's become a battleground. I think I'll be a Lady Robyn and take a break for a while.

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I'm just so tired of listening to people who have already moved out of OK, or who wish they weren't here, criticize the state.
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Colleen, you provide a lot of wisdom to this forum. Thanks!

[Bass&Catfish2008]

Originally Posted by Lillywhite

Fair point. I have heard that Missouri and Kansas are more religious than Oklahoma. However, what surprises me about OKC specifically is that it is a large city, and the state capital, yet it is still massively religious. Sure you can find heavily religious "communes" in Texas, but the big cities, Dallas, Houston, Austin, are massively more progressive than OKC.

I'm not sure what your comments about the British media are about. Are you talking about the tabloids? Yes these are trash but Britain is renowned for good journalism.

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However, what surprises me about OKC specifically is that it is a large city, and the state capital, yet it is still massively religious.
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Well Lilly, most of us bonafied Okies view this as a very positive thing.

[StillwaterTownie]

Originally Posted by Bass&Catfish2008

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However, what surprises me about OKC specifically is that it is a large city, and the state capital, yet it is still massively religious.
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Well Lilly, most of us bonafied Okies view this as a very positive thing.

That is so true since so many, many OKC area people look up in absolute adoration of Oklahoma State Representative Sally Kern since she is so passionately against the homosexuals. Lots of OKC area people feel homosexuals should be vigoursly discrimated against once it becomes exposed as to just who they are.

[Bass&Catfish2008]

Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie

That is so true since so many, many OKC area people look up in absolute adoration of Oklahoma State Representative Sally Kern since she is so passionately against the homosexuals. Lots of OKC area people feel homosexuals should be vigoursly discrimated against once it becomes exposed as to just who they are.

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Lots of OKC area people feel homosexuals should be vigoursly discrimated against once it becomes exposed as to just who they are.
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Yeh, I'm not a big Kern fan and I do not want to discriminate against anyone.

IMO, it is a very positive thing that Oklahoma is a state that is largely dominated by Evangelical culture.

[okcpulse]

Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie

That is so true since so many, many OKC area people look up in absolute adoration of Oklahoma State Representative Sally Kern since she is so passionately against the homosexuals. Lots of OKC area people feel homosexuals should be vigoursly discrimated against once it becomes exposed as to just who they are.

Are you so sure about that? Only a thousand or so showed in support of her little moral declaration out of 1.3 million. Oh yeah, she sure is popular. Pshh.

Everyone I talk to in OKC think she is a village idiot. And her little island in Warr Acres is about the only backing she has. Every city in American has a super religious pocket. For OKC, it is Warr Acres and Bethany. For Houston, its Conroe.

[Jammie]

I'm all for the religious aspects of OK, but the fact that homosexuals are outcasts or discriminated against just doesn't set quite right with me. Sorry, but it's not my place to judge someone who's different or make them feel like they're worthless as a human being.

[Lillywhite]

Yeah, if somebody wants to believe in talking snakes and bearded men in the sky, that's great, but don't infringe on others. Don't try and force it on people and don't flaunt it. Plus, it's all the political nonsense that comes with the religion that gets me. As soon as you start forming and supporting your political views with religion rather than reason and common sense, you're in trouble.