40 Things You Won't Hear An Okie Say (Tulsa, Muskogee: crime, house)
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Business Listing with the following terms in the name of the business
Dixie:
Tulsa - 1
OKC - 6
Little Rock - 18
Midwest:
Tulsa - 80
OKC - 19 (Not counting business with "Midwest City" in the name)
Little Rock - 8
Southwest:
Tulsa - 67
OKC - 98
Little Rock - 37
Cowboy:
Tulsa - 13
OKC - 14
Little Rock - 1
Tulsa is the same distance from Kansas City as it is to Dallas. And Dallas isn't a southern city anyway, it's Southwestern. The closest real southern city to Tulsa is Little Rock, but Kansas City, Wichita and Springfield, Mo are all closer. If you count Houston as a southern city, which I would, then it's the closest large southern city to Tulsa, but St Louis, Omaha and Des Moines are all closer.
I've lived in the near south in Maryland, I've lived in Florida and Alabama, which are the real south. I've lived in Tulsa, Oklahoma City and Kansas. I've lived in the Midwest in Indiana.
Tulsa is not south
chill. oklahomans consider themselves okies. neither southern nor midwest, nor northern. to me when i lived there we were just central and i am an okie. just need to agree to disagree. i dont mean to disrespect you or anyone. we are just a different breed of people we are the nicest people in the world well atleast thats what i think. so why does it matter.
i'm not from oklahoma but reading this it seems the vast majority of the state is populated by drink driving, poorly educated, gun carrying, alcoholics with a disposition towards pedophilia.
Business Listing with the following terms in the name of the business
Dixie:
Tulsa - 1
OKC - 6
Little Rock - 18
Midwest:
Tulsa - 80
OKC - 19 (Not counting business with "Midwest City" in the name)
Little Rock - 8
Southwest:
Tulsa - 67
OKC - 98
Little Rock - 37
Cowboy:
Tulsa - 13
OKC - 14
Little Rock - 1
Tulsa is the same distance from Kansas City as it is to Dallas. And Dallas isn't a southern city anyway, it's Southwestern. The closest real southern city to Tulsa is Little Rock, but Kansas City, Wichita and Springfield, Mo are all closer. If you count Houston as a southern city, which I would, then it's the closest large southern city to Tulsa, but St Louis, Omaha and Des Moines are all closer.
I've lived in the near south in Maryland, I've lived in Florida and Alabama, which are the real south. I've lived in Tulsa, Oklahoma City and Kansas. I've lived in the Midwest in Indiana.
Tulsa is not south
Oklahoma is not the Midwest. How many times do you see Rhubarb Pie or Corn-beef and hash on an Okie Menu. You will find Pecan Pie and grits down here.
You lose the Southern accent and charm when you cross the Kansas border.
Muskogee has the Azalea Festival.
Okmulgee has the Pecan Festival.
Checotah has the Okra Fest.
Eufaula has Whole Hawg day.
Porter has Peach Festival.
Ringwood has the Watermelon Festival.
RushSpring has a watermelon Festival.
Wewoka has the Sorghum Festival.
The inhabitants of what later became Oklahoma were on the side of the South.
On June 23, 1865, at Fort Towson in the Choctaw Nations' area of the Oklahoma Territory, Stand Watie signed a cease-fire agreement with Union representatives, becoming the last Confederate general in the field to stand down.
IMO Oklahoma's has more in common with Texas and Arkansas then any other state we touch.
Oklahoma is not the Midwest. How many times do you see Rhubarb Pie or Corn-beef and hash on an Okie Menu. You will find Pecan Pie and grits down here.
You lose the Southern accent and charm when you cross the Kansas border.
Muskogee has the Azalea Festival.
Okmulgee has the Pecan Festival.
Checotah has the Okra Fest.
Eufaula has Whole Hawg day.
Porter has Peach Festival.
Ringwood has the Watermelon Festival.
RushSpring has a watermelon Festival.
Wewoka has the Sorghum Festival.
The inhabitants of what later became Oklahoma were on the side of the South.
On June 23, 1865, at Fort Towson in the Choctaw Nations' area of the Oklahoma Territory, Stand Watie signed a cease-fire agreement with Union representatives, becoming the last Confederate general in the field to stand down.
IMO Oklahoma's has more in common with Texas and Arkansas then any other state we touch.
Calm down there, Chief...you might blow a blood vessel. Lighten up a tad.
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Tulsa is a Midwestern city
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I'll have to respectfully disagree with you there. Tulsa is not that much different (hardly at all really....although it is somewhat culturally eclectic in the arts, etc.) than OK City....it's only a couple of hours a way (I usually make it in about 1.5 hours, but I drive pretty fast). Moreover, I've yet to see a respected/legitimate map place Oklahoma in the Midwest. Most regional designations place Oklahoma either in the Western part of the South at large....or the South-Central (which I prefer as well) or Southern Plains. Like it or not Swake, the majority of Oklahoma is more Southern culturally than anything else.
I've yet to meet tried&true Okies (that are born&raised in Oklahoma and Tulsa) that would argue that Tulsa is Midwestern (although I have met a transplant or two that call Oklahoma part of the Midwest as well as Texas. I agree with you that some Oklahomans may not consider themselves Southern (although we historically have strong ties to the South with settlers and Civil War affiliation) but most tried&true Okies would hardly identify themselves as Midwestern either....most would say we're simply Okies = which is fine by me! However, legitimate surveys have shown that a majority of Oklahomans consider Oklahoma as part of the South....with a big chunk of OK's population in the Tulsa area....I think it is a safe bet that many Tulsans answered in the affirmative. Moreover, I absolutely agree with you that Oklahoma is not the Deep South (Bammer, MS, Georgia, South Carolina).....but on the whole it has more in common associationally and culturally with these states than the vast majority of true Midwestern states.
Furthermore, OK City/Tulsa are much more akin to Fort Worth, Amarillo, Lubbock, Little Rock, Nashville. I understand that you may not think of these cities as Southern and that's your right/opinion. However, they are certainly not Midwestern. Ask folks from tried&true Midwestern states such as Nebraska/Kansas (as well as Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, MN, WI, etc.) and I think you'll find that the general consensus is that Oklahoma and Tulsa are not Midwestern....at least this has been my experience with virtually every person I've ever met from the Midwest. IMO Oklahoma is exactly what it is geographically....basically the western most boundary of the South and the eastern most boundary of the West....hence, we are primarily a mixture of Southern and Western cultures.....not Midwestern.
Anyhow, agree to disagree. Cheers.
She mentioned San Antonio where I reside and I don't live in the southwest either. The southwest is New Mexico and Arizona, Texas is in the south or south central as you stated. If people think Oklahoma or Texas for that matter is backwards calling it southwest/west/midwest won't change their minds, people should know OKC and Tulsa are large modern cities.
The "Is OK southern or midwestern" discussion has been done already.
Absolutely, RB.....a VERY tired/old discussion.....zzzzzzz....
As many have shown on this forum time-and-time again, Oklahoma (and for that matter Texas) are NOT Midwestern....but that is neither here nor there.
In the grand scheme of things is doesn't matter one bit.
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I agree with you that some Oklahomans may not consider themselves Southern (although we historically have strong ties to the South with settlers and Civil War affiliation) but most tried&true Okies would hardly identify themselves as Midwestern either....most would say we're simply Okies = which is fine by me!
