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Old 08-13-2010, 07:38 AM
 
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Swake, great observations.

Although I'm from Tulsa I know my way around Seattle better than I do OKC. It's sort of silly, but my best judge of a city is my gut feeling when I'm there: am I comfortable? do I feel at home with the surroundings? Does the city feel welcoming? Do I enjoy the topography? Do I like the style of architecture in the neighborhoods?

Most all of those things are simply personal choices. The city reminds me of a tiny Dallas, and I don't like the atmosphere in Dallas. Not enough preservation of old neighborhoods and architecture for my taste in Dallas, and I haven't explored OKC enough to know whether they have any old, quaint, awesome neighborhoods/communities with craftsman style homes. Every time I'm there it's mostly highways, expressways, stripmalls, ugly McMansion type areas, and four lane roads to cross. Not pedestrian friendly outside of downtown. I haven't been downtown in OKC in a couple of years, but what I saw was mostly chain restaurants. I prefer local fair, which is more indicative to the way downtown Tulsa is growing. Thank God.

Tulsa streets suck. Always have and I guess they always will. Tulsa's city government sucks. I won't even go into how I think Dumb Dewey got elected, but it must be great to have a family name and personal 'handlers' to get you to run for Tulsa Mayor to keep you from running for Governor. (juz what I heard from some knowning kind of people)

I guess I could live in OKC if I had to for work. I think I'd find things to like about the city if I were living there. Embrace the culture of wherever you're living. ?? That's my take.
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Old 08-13-2010, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Edmond, OK
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Swake, great observations.

Although I'm from Tulsa I know my way around Seattle better than I do OKC. It's sort of silly, but my best judge of a city is my gut feeling when I'm there: am I comfortable? do I feel at home with the surroundings? Does the city feel welcoming? Do I enjoy the topography? Do I like the style of architecture in the neighborhoods?

Most all of those things are simply personal choices. The city reminds me of a tiny Dallas, and I don't like the atmosphere in Dallas. Not enough preservation of old neighborhoods and architecture for my taste in Dallas, and I haven't explored OKC enough to know whether they have any old, quaint, awesome neighborhoods/communities with craftsman style homes. Every time I'm there it's mostly highways, expressways, stripmalls, ugly McMansion type areas, and four lane roads to cross. Not pedestrian friendly outside of downtown. I haven't been downtown in OKC in a couple of years, but what I saw was mostly chain restaurants. I prefer local fair, which is more indicative to the way downtown Tulsa is growing. Thank God.

Tulsa streets suck. Always have and I guess they always will. Tulsa's city government sucks. I won't even go into how I think Dumb Dewey got elected, but it must be great to have a family name and personal 'handlers' to get you to run for Tulsa Mayor to keep you from running for Governor. (juz what I heard from some knowning kind of people)

I guess I could live in OKC if I had to for work. I think I'd find things to like about the city if I were living there. Embrace the culture of wherever you're living. ?? That's my take.
There's lots of great local restaurants located in Midtown, just north of downtown, and near the Paseo, really all over town. But you do have to drive around and explore to find them. You won't see them just driving through on the freeways, which would explain why all you see is chains. We have the same problem when we are in Tulsa. I know there are lots of great places, but you kind of have to know where to look. We did stumble upon the Blue Dome Diner last year on a trip to Tulsa, and we absolutely love it. We've lived in OKC 4 years and one of the things we've enjoyed the most is the wonderful variety of local restaurants.
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Old 08-13-2010, 12:36 PM
 
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There's lots of great local restaurants located in Midtown, just north of downtown, and near the Paseo, really all over town. But you do have to drive around and explore to find them. You won't see them just driving through on the freeways, which would explain why all you see is chains. We have the same problem when we are in Tulsa. I know there are lots of great places, but you kind of have to know where to look. We did stumble upon the Blue Dome Diner last year on a trip to Tulsa, and we absolutely love it. We've lived in OKC 4 years and one of the things we've enjoyed the most is the wonderful variety of local restaurants.
I'd like to know where some of the neighborhoods are in OKC that sort of have their own personality or flair. Years back my daughter and I finally found a CD (hehe, yeah, it was the late 90's) on Western Ave. she was looking for, and that's the closest I've come to finding what I'd like to see in OKC. Is there an area of OKC that is similar to Cherry St. in Tulsa? If so, someone clue me in. I'd like to explore it next time I'm over that way.

Plus, I love driving through neighborhoods with craftsman style houses. I know OKC has them; I just don't know where to go. They don't have to be old swank houses, just moderate, craftsman style.
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Old 08-13-2010, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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I'd like to know where some of the neighborhoods are in OKC that sort of have their own personality or flair. Years back my daughter and I finally found a CD (hehe, yeah, it was the late 90's) on Western Ave. she was looking for, and that's the closest I've come to finding what I'd like to see in OKC. Is there an area of OKC that is similar to Cherry St. in Tulsa? If so, someone clue me in. I'd like to explore it next time I'm over that way.

Plus, I love driving through neighborhoods with craftsman style houses. I know OKC has them; I just don't know where to go. They don't have to be old swank houses, just moderate, craftsman style.
Craftsman makes houses? Well, like thier Lawn mowers and weed eaters, you can bet they have a very short "Durability rating".

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Old 08-13-2010, 03:30 PM
 
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Craftsman makes houses? Well, like thier Lawn mowers and weed eaters, you can bet they have a very short "Durability rating".

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Yeah, yeah, yeah....very funny.
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Old 08-13-2010, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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As far as Texans criticizing OKC, there might be few that do it to get a rise out of you, but honestly and donít take this wrong, for most Texans, OKC isnít even on their radar.
This is probably true when Texans are conversing with other Texans but generally when Texans are talking to Oklahomans they generally manage to say something negative about Oklahoma in the conversation. Sometimes it is "to get a rise" out of you. Sometimes it is out of meanness/Texas pride and sometimes it is out of ignorance (not being on the radar screen).

The latest example for me happened in Austin. We were in one of those boats on town lake that they have there. When the hostess found out we were a group from OKlahoma she innocently asked. "Is there any water at all in Oklahoma?" We then pointed out that Oklahoma has more lake shoreline than there is ocean shoreline in the United States." She then said, "That's weird with Oklahoma being the dust bowl and all."
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Old 08-13-2010, 03:41 PM
 
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This is probably true when Texans are conversing with other Texans but generally when Texans are talking to Oklahomans they generally manage to say something negative about Oklahoma in the conversation. Sometimes it is "to get a rise" out of you. Sometimes it is out of meanness/Texas pride and sometimes it is out of ignorance (not being on the radar screen).

The latest example for me happened in Austin. We were in one of those boats on town lake that they have there. When the hostess found out we were a group from OKlahoma she innocently asked. "Is there any water at all in Oklahoma?" We then pointed out that Oklahoma has more lake shoreline than there is ocean shoreline in the United States." She then said, "That's weird with Oklahoma being the dust bowl and all."
Ohhhhhh, you missed a great comeback. You could have responded, "Well, I hope we have water since Texas' dry A$$ has sued Oklahoma ot make claim for our water. Maybe you Texans should consider water conservation, honey."
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Old 08-13-2010, 04:38 PM
 
Location: North Dallas
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Well, okay but the Woman in Austin is a sign of ignorance not meanness. I think there is a lot of smack talk related to sports, but that happens everywhere. To show both sides you should check out OKCTalk, man they say nasty things about Dallas and Tulsa all the time, but they are just talking among themselves and I am not offended by it because I'm not insecure about where I live and a lot of it is just ignorance about the subject.

As far as the water, I believe it was Ft. Worth that wanted the water, not the whole state of Texas.
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Old 08-13-2010, 05:34 PM
 
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Oh, she probably was just teasing as was I with the response. As for the water lawsuit I believe it's Tarrent County. I know that's the Dallas area, but am not sure what part of the metroplex. I thought it was northern Dallas area.

Oy! am I off topic now?
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Old 08-13-2010, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Edmond, OK
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Oh, she probably was just teasing as was I with the response. As for the water lawsuit I believe it's Tarrent County. I know that's the Dallas area, but am not sure what part of the metroplex. I thought it was northern Dallas area.

Oy! am I off topic now?
Fort Worth is the county seat of Tarrant County. Goes about as far east as Arlington. Dallas is in Dallas County.
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