[e_cuyler]

Arkansas seems less restrictive just because they allow refrigerators in liquor stores and I think they don't have the weird rules about not being able to sell anything other than beer/wine/liquor. It seems like they had a little more variety than Oklahoma as far as beer that was available, but it's been a while since I've been in an Oklahoma liquor store so I'm hoping that may have changed a little bit.

[StillwaterTownie]

Why won't the Oklahoma law allow liquor stores to sell anything refrigerated? Were the law creators scared drivers wouldn't be able to resist drinking a cold beer on the way home from the liquor store, especially during the summer time?

[SluggoF16]

Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie

Why won't the Oklahoma law allow liquor stores to sell anything refrigerated? Were the law creators scared drivers wouldn't be able to resist drinking a cold beer on the way home from the liquor store, especially during the summer time?

Probably the reason.

A Louisiana right-of-passage could go away as well. When I was stationed in Central Louisiana in the 80s there were drive-through daiquiri shops. Still are, but now there's a bill in the state Legislature that would stiplulate that when they give the drink to you there will be no holes on the lid to poke the straw through. Or maybe no straw. However, will probably die in committee.

Fortunately there is still New Orleans.

[foonman50]

Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie

Why won't the Oklahoma law allow liquor stores to sell anything refrigerated? Were the law creators scared drivers wouldn't be able to resist drinking a cold beer on the way home from the liquor store, especially during the summer time?

Uh probably to placate the Baptists. They had to have trade offs to just get prohibition ended in 1959. Hence the 3.2% by weight or 4.0% by volume low point beer that can be sold cold. Before liquor by the drink was passed in about 1984 3.2 % by weight beer was classified as "non-alcoholic". We know that was a joke but the opposition must not have been very knowlegable. After liquor by the drink passed that classification of 3.2% beer became just low point beer. In the 1960's and early 70's Coors, Bud and Miller etc. all sold strong beer to wholesale distributors for liquor stores to sell. However the big boys wanted franchising for strong beer and state law would not allow it. They wanted territories set aside for their distributors by geographic areas to sell strong beer to liquor stores direct. That didn't fly with state law so they floated the concept of we can't control the quality of the beer like the 3.2% by not having franchising so all the big boys took their strong beer home and pulled it from liquor stores. Hence no Coors, Bud, and Miller in liquor stores. SO now we have hundreds of smaller beers for sale but no biggies.
Also Bud in Texas is 5.0% by volume, Bud light is 4.2% by volume. Most Texas beers are around 5.0% by volume. Some are stronger but the big dogs are not "6 point". Many states have weird liquor laws I just work around it and enjoy what I can get.

[linicx]

The Oklahoma ABC (Alcohol Beverage Commission?) controls all alcoholic beverages sold in the state and how. Delaware County had the BYOB Clubs too. They sold ice in the rented glass! Dry is dry! The last time I wanted to buy beer, chips and pop at the liquor store it was a circus.

A wall separated the liquor side from the beverage side. You pay for nonalcoholic on one side, leave the building and enter on the other side to buy booze. It made it a lot easier when beer became available in grocery stores. What OK is slowly learning is these kinds of laws not only drives OK paychecks to other states; OK loses the tax money on every sale.

The Blue Laws were worse than dumb. You could buy infant formula but not a bottle. ABC had decided in its infinite wisdom drunks could use the baby bottle as a glass. This self-respecting drunks in NEOK drove to MO and KS. They particularly liked the MO liquor store on the OK/MO border. There was a steady stream of traffic on that 10 mile stretch of road on Saturday nights and all day Sunday until closing.

[foonman50]

Originally Posted by linicx

The Oklahoma ABC (Alcohol Beverage Commission?) controls all alcoholic beverages sold in the state and how. Delaware County had the BYOB Clubs too. They sold ice in the rented glass! Dry is dry! The last time I wanted to buy beer, chips and pop at the liquor store it was a circus.

A wall separated the liquor side from the beverage side. You pay for nonalcoholic on one side, leave the building and enter on the other side to buy booze. It made it a lot easier when beer became available in grocery stores. What OK is slowly learning is these kinds of laws not only drives OK paychecks to other states; OK loses the tax money on every sale.

The Blue Laws were worse than dumb. You could buy infant formula but not a bottle. ABC had decided in its infinite wisdom drunks could use the baby bottle as a glass. This self-respecting drunks in NEOK drove to MO and KS. They particularly liked the MO liquor store on the OK/MO border. There was a steady stream of traffic on that 10 mile stretch of road on Saturday nights and all day Sunday until closing.

The liquor laws were so tight assed before 1984 that TV stations had to know when network wine or liquor comercials were to be broadcast so they could block them from being seen no advertising of strong stuff period. Quite a crazy time.

[Libsk]

Originally Posted by e_cuyler

I believe there is some kind of restriction, though, because I asked a liquor store owner in Arkansas and he said he was not allowed to sell my favorite brand there, but that they did have it in Missouri. Arkansas has similar laws to Oklahoma but are slightly less restrictive so I imagine there must be some kind of legal provision disallowing it. I know for a fact they've never sold it in Oklahoma even though the company's distribution expanded into the region quite some time ago. Back when I lived here before there did not seem to be a huge variety in strong beer available compared to other states.

Might be some weird thing about how the beer is prepared/stored. Liquor laws make about as much sense as gaming laws.

I lived Arkansas in the early 80s and DRY meant DRY.

I guess they've changed since.

[StillwaterTownie]

Originally Posted by Libsk

I lived Arkansas in the early 80s and DRY meant DRY.

I guess they've changed since.

You mean dry meaning you couldn't even buy beer in a grocery store or convenience store. You could do that in Oklahoma in the 1980s, probably further back to whenever 3.2% beer was classified as non-intoxicating in Oklahoma.