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Old 05-17-2013, 03:12 PM
 
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Geographically it appears to be western but geo-politically it is more similar to a mid western state. What is your opinion?
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Old 05-17-2013, 03:15 PM
 
Location: The East
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Geographically Western. To me Tulsa has more of a western feel socially where OKC seems slightly more midwestern.
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Old 05-17-2013, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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It's a mix. OKC is a combination of Southern and southwestern. Tulsa feels more Midwestern.
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Old 05-17-2013, 04:53 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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Geographically it appears to be western but geo-politically it is more similar to a mid western state. What is your opinion?
Geographically, it is a mixture of SouthXSouthwest.

Geopolitically and culturally, it is Western South (OK/TX/West AR) or, as I prefer, South-Central (Southern Plains, Indian Nations work too).

If you go over to the General Forum, there is a thread on there right now regarding what states are considered the "Midwest." Oklahoma is not one of the states pinpointed in the thread.
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Pawnee Nation
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what a novel idea for a thread..............frankly I think it is best described as NOT California..........
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Old 05-17-2013, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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It is so hard to pin down what region of the county best defines Oklahoma. How can you call us a Southern state with cities like Enid, Lawton, Woodward, and Guymon? How can you call us a midwest state with towns like Durant, Tahlequah, McAlester and Poteau? Maybe Oklahoma and most parts of Texas could be called the Southwest and Arizona and New Mexico could be called the Desert Southwest. A lot of times I hear that term used for that area.

And to me for what its worth, Tulsa seems to be a lot more Southern than OKC.
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Old 05-18-2013, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Oklahoma is probably a watered down version of southern and western. However the western part of the state is solidly northern and southern plains roughly demarcated by I-40.
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:10 AM
 
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Tulsa seems midwestern to me. not much feeling of a change from Saint Louis on down through Missouri to Tulsa. Eastern Oklahoma excluding Tulsa does feel quite southern, however. Other parts of the state feel more southern, and western. I40 and I35 seem to divide the state into meaningful quadrants.
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Old 05-18-2013, 04:06 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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It is so hard to pin down what region of the county best defines Oklahoma. How can you call us a Southern state with cities like Enid, Lawton, Woodward, and Guymon? How can you call us a midwest state with towns like Durant, Tahlequah, McAlester and Poteau? Maybe Oklahoma and most parts of Texas could be called the Southwest and Arizona and New Mexico could be called the Desert Southwest. A lot of times I hear that term used for that area.

And to me for what its worth, Tulsa seems to be a lot more Southern than OKC.
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Oklahoma and most parts of Texas could be called the Southwest and Arizona and New Mexico could be called the Desert Southwest.
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110% agree with this.

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Tulsa seems to be a lot more Southern than OKC.
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Again, this is true from my experience as well. My folks/relatives that are from the Tulsa area seem to have a bit more Southern lilt (especially in the surrounding Tulsa areas) while my OK City family/colleagues seem kinda like Fort Worth in that it is the South and West mixed together.

I would be perfectly fine with the delineation of the Southwest for Oklahoma/Texas if it didn't conjure up some affinity with Arizona and most of New Mexico (which as you clearly noted is the Desert SW). I see a lot of businesses referred to as "Southwest XYZ" throughout Oklahoma.

Also, the Cancer Treatment Center of America's Southwest location is in Tulsa: http://www.cancercenter.com/southwestern-hospital.cfm.
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Old 05-18-2013, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Again, this is true from my experience as well. My folks/relatives that are from the Tulsa area seem to have a bit more Southern lilt (especially in the surrounding Tulsa areas) while my OK City family/colleagues seem kinda like Fort Worth in that it is the South and West mixed together.
Very little of Tulsa makes me think of the Midwest. But I keep hearing folks on CD saying they think Tulsa is more of a Midwest city. For 6 years I was a sales rep for a large photo chemical company, my home base was Tulsa and I had to call on clients in KS, AR, MO, OK, parts of TX. each month I had to spend a week in Wichita, KC, Little Rock, NE Texas and Oklahoma. Nothing about Wichita or KC reminded me that much of Tulsa. The City that I felt reminded me the most of Tulsa was Little Rock.

Tulsa weather has a lot more in common with the upper south than any midwest weather. I think Tulsa has only had one or two blizzards in its history. How many time do you hear the term Midwest Blizzard? All the time.

Tulsa is firmly in the bible belt, the midwest isn't. Tulsa Neighborhoods look almost park like, in the spring dogwoods, redbuds, azaleas, magnolias trees... Pecan trees are native to this area and are some of the most common trees. In the Tulsa metro area there are large peach orchards near Porter. Biscuits and gravy and grits are common here. And Tulsans have more of a Southern accent than a midwest accent. I never really noticed it so much until I came back home after working the last few years in Pennsylvania. I kept thinking where the heck are all these hicks coming from....LOL I have a very think accent!

I'm not saying Tulsa is total Southern City, just saying it has a lot more in common with the South than the Midwest. And with OKC it's hard for me to call a city that sits just on the edge of the great plains a Southern City.
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