Native American pic thread (Spiro, Mounds: lease, work, property)

[SeabeeBolt]

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Redbird, this face looks as if one could look deep into his eyes and see the wisdom, love, strength and life within. What nation would he be from?

Thanks

[jadybug]

Originally Posted by SeabeeBolt

What nation would he be from?




My guess would be...CROW!!(AKA: Absaroka) You just have to laugh at the double meaning, but seriously Red am I right?

[redbird4848]

Hey seab, I have no idea. Since it is a painting, I would guess its just a pigment of someone's imagination.

As for the ghost dance, actually, there is a great deal to be said about it, and GP was right on the money. The Ghost Dance came about as a revitalization movement, *(right word?), in which, a prophet had a vision in which if his followers would perform this dance, they could bring back the old days i.e. like it was before the Europeans came to this continent.

Remember this was in the late 1880's when the vast herds of bison were slaughtered. Something that was unimaginable to our People.

There were ghost dance shirts and dresses which they believed to make one invincible to the white man's bullets. Some plains tribes took up this movement and it brought great alarm to both the americans as well as to those who did not follow the movement.

A member from my own tribe took a journey up north to speak to the man who started the Ghost Dance movement, and decided for himself the man was a false prophet. Of course there is a great deal I am leaving out but that is the condensed CDF version. So my tribe did not follow it.

I don't think anyone in modern times can truly understand the massive extinction of our People from war and diseases like cholera, smallpox, etc and the near extinction of the buffalo which brought about the demise of the old way of life within one generation.
A Story of the Great Ghost Dance

Robbie Robertson's contemporary song Ghost Dance.
YouTube - Ghost Dance

Jadybug, you are probably correct, I was just too lazy to look up the downloaded pic.

[jadybug]

[quote=redbird4848;4186971]Hey seab, I have no idea. Since it is a painting, I would guess its just a pigment of someone's imagination.


Sorry Red for the mix up! I was actually answering Sea. I believe he is of the Crow Nation (I'm guessing from the crow bird on his head). Not familiar with this tribe much, but there you have it. I love it! Thanks for posting it Thought since you were the source of the pic, you'd know if I was right on my guess.

[colleeng47]

Redbird, thanks so much for that story. I had heard the story of the Ghost Dance in my History of NA course in college a few years ago. I knew it was banned by the whites and anyone found disobeying was slaughtered. There was apparently great fear of the Ghost Dance.

Another observation: The Mormons (Church of the Latter Day Saints) teach that Jesus appeared to people in America in between the time of his resurrection and ascension into heaven. This story sounds a lot like those teachings. Also, I found a lot of correlation between the story you posted and the Bible -- especially Revelations. Very interesting.

[redbird4848]

Originally Posted by jadybug

Sorry Red for the mix up! I was actually answering Sea. I believe he is of the Crow Nation (I'm guessing from the crow bird on his head). Not familiar with this tribe much, but there you have it. I love it! Thanks for posting it Thought since you were the source of the pic, you'd know if I was right on my guess.

Jadybug wins the cookie!

The painting is entitled, "I am Crow". Not sure of the tribe of the subject. Could be his "medicine".


Here is the artists blog. Great artist.

KIRBY SATTLER Native American Art

[jadybug]

Originally Posted by redbird4848

Jadybug wins the cookie!

The painting is entitled, "I am Crow". Not sure of the tribe of the subject. Could be his "medicine".


Here is the artists blog. Great artist.

KIRBY SATTLER Native American Art

No problem...Just off the top of my head!! LOL! LOL! LOL!

[karibear]

There were also stories of the Vikings coming to America in the time of Leif Errickson, whole villages intermarrying with the Natives they found and moving all over the New World. Supposedly ancient Celtic coins have been found in Michigan, I think, and the whole thing was written about in a book called Westviking - forgotten the author, and too lazy to look him up. The whole idea was pooh-poohed by historians, but they never came up with another explanation for the red and blond-haired, blue-eyed Mandans - not that it matters now, because the Mandans were wiped out by measles, or something like that relatively minor to the whites.

[mkfarnam]

Originally Posted by karibear

There were also stories of the Vikings coming to America in the time of Leif Errickson, whole villages intermarrying with the Natives they found and moving all over the New World. Supposedly ancient Celtic coins have been found in Michigan, I think, and the whole thing was written about in a book called Westviking - forgotten the author, and too lazy to look him up. The whole idea was pooh-poohed by historians, but they never came up with another explanation for the red and blond-haired, blue-eyed Mandans - not that it matters now, because the Mandans were wiped out by measles, or something like that relatively minor to the whites.

Was this the Author Karibear? "Mowat Farley"

[karibear]

Originally Posted by mkfarnam

Was this the Author Karibear? "Mowat Farley"

Not unless he was writing under a pseudonym when it was first published. I just googled it and came up with Mowat too, but as I recall the original author was American, and Mowat is not only Canadian, but not allowed into the US. Besides, according to google and Amazon, Mowat wrote it in 1990, and it was recommended to me in late 1969. Very strange.

Okay. After all this thinking about it, I finally remembered the guy's name. Barry Fell was the one who wrote the book I have [or had].

And just to make it even more strange, I googled Barry Fell, and even though he wrote a lot about ancient America, it doesn't show Westviking as one of his books. I'm boggled, now. I have GOT to find my book or it's remains so I'll know who DID write it!