Native American pic thread (Oklahoma City, Ada: transplants, work, housing)

[Synopsis]

Originally Posted by redbird4848

Interesting world-view espoused by Sen. Dawes, 1883. God, he makes me sick. May he rest in pieces.

excerpt taken from:
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"The government giveth
The groundwork for the allotment system was laid in 1883 by U.S. Sen. Henry Dawes, who believed the communal ownership of land interfered with American Indian progress.

"Under that there is no enterprise. ... There is no selfishness, which is at the bottom of civilization,” Dawes said.

"Till this people will consent to give up their lands, and divide them among their citizens so that each can own the land he cultivates, they will not make much more progress.”

In 1906, land allotments were distributed individually among the Five Civilized Tribes. In 1908, they were separated from that land."

I agree; Native Americans were screwed, and screwed big time.. It's one thing to win a war, but an entirely different thing to continually screw over those that you defeated through broken promises and lies.

It is entirely possible that those broken promises and lies are coming back to haunt this country.

Just my opinion.

[colleeng47]

Originally Posted by redbird4848

"Till this people will consent to give up their lands, and divide them among their citizens so that each can own the land he cultivates, they will not make much more progress.”

Translation: We want your land; this is the first step, so get out of our way.

[redbird4848]

I love it when people on this forum say things like, "...we need to get back to the morals this country was founded on... like freedom, truth, and justice for all!..."

Whatver, dude!

Can you imagine anyone saying there is no selfishness? And that trait means a culture/people is at the bottom of civilization? geez. That is one sick perverted POV.

[warrior]

Bacone College in Muskogee, Oklahoma has extended their enrollment for all Native and/or Christian students to September 1st. They are also offering a 35% scholarship to any Native and/or Christian student - no questions asked. There are also additional scholarships available so the cost of college is not longer what it used to be. Which is cool because I never thought it was possible for me to go to college. I didn't have the grades, the money or the opportunity. Of course using the excuse "it's too late to enroll" is no longer a excuse with the extended enrollment. Living on campus is cool and I heard the food is great! (another great plus)

I am so excited about this - I though that others should get hooked up with Bacone and take advantage of the scholarship opportunity. Maybe I should become a recruiter for Bacone...

I talked with someone in admissions : Christy
Bacone College

[redbird4848]

Federal judge says American Indians owed 455 million in trust case

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...with interest!

[redbird4848]

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YouTube - Peyote Song. Blessed Father

[redbird4848]

From the Institute of American Indian Arts school. Very nice.

[colleeng47]

Very nice, RB. That second one looks like it was done from an actual photograph. Some really talented individuals at work there.

[redbird4848]

Yeah, I like the way they are using the beads to make portraits.

The Cherokee Heritage Center - Trail of Tears Art Show has some outstanding artwork.







I see they have an art market in October. That should be awesome! Any art lovers out there?
http://www.cherokeeheritage.org/Default.aspx?tabid=1566

[OneDayAttaTime]

Originally Posted by moonmaiden

Hi

I'm curious as to how welcoming the native members would be to someone that knows just a moderate amount of info about the Cherokee tribe. Do they provide good medical help (beyond Medicare?) Are there other benefits to living there that I should know about?

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

If you have your CDIB (Certificate of Degree of Indian Blood) and are on the rolls, you can get a house through the Cherokee. I believe they will give you the 15% down on a decent house. If you are Cherokee, but your name is not on the Dawes commission rolls (and if you are descended from the men you say, and can prove it with birth records you should be able to get a CDIB) you can get a rent house from anywhere from $200-$700.

Section 184 Indian Home Loan Program (homeownership and housing rehabilitation) is for eligible Native Americans on their native lands and within an approved Indian area. (EX: much of Tulsa is in Creek jursidiction. I have a family member, who is Cherokee but living in the Creek area. He receives no assistance as he not living on his native land. He was told to move to the Cherokee area and he can get assistance.)

• a low down payment requirement -under $50,000- your down payment is only 1.25%! (2.25% for loans over $50,000;
• no monthly mortgage insurance premium
• flexible underwriting means that the underwriters and Loan Guarantee Specialists understand the unique issues and circumstances that Native Americans face when trying to get a mortgage in Indian Country.

Section 184 Loan can be used to:

• Purchase an existing home
• Build a new house, Rehab loans (rehabilitation of existing housing)
• Refinancing

Benefits of the Section 184 Loan Guarantee Program-
Add on an additional room or make improvements? Section 184 financing would later allow you to pay off their old loan and combine it with a rehab loan.

To get a loan (if you are a Native American) - apply with a HUD-Approved Section 184 lender Participating Tribes List- Section 184 - Indian Home Loan Guarantee Program- Indian Housing - HUD

If you are a lender that wants to be qualified to participate- Lender Qualifications - Section 184 - Indian Home Loan Guarantee Program- Indian Housing - HUD


You can see if your tribe is on the list: http://www.hud.gov/offices/pih/ih/ho...ribal_list.xls



For more info: Section 184 - Indian Home Loan Guarantee Program- Indian Housing - HUD