[Griffis]

Originally Posted by Johnhw2

Liberals have no sense of fiscal matters... the answer to spending more than you take in tax revenues is put it on the credit card.

To anyone remotely aware of what has been going on in this nation for at least the past four decades--to any rational, unbiased people--it is obvious that neither of the two major political parties is preferable to the other.

A cursory glance at out history proves that Republicans are every bit 100% as incompetent and irresponsible with fiscal matters as the democrats and republicans are every bit 100% as intrusive and invasive into the private lives of citizens as the Democrats.

Also, the unfortunate fact is there haven't been any actual "conservatives" in the Republican Party since sometime around the end of the Vietnam conflict.

The national-level politicians from BOTH parties are bought, sold and owned by special interests--multinational CEOs, heads of global banks and energy concerns, private contractors and lobbyists.

No reasonable person should ever vote for ANY Republican OR Democrat for any national office ever.

[Bass&Catfish2008]

Originally Posted by Griffis

To anyone remotely aware of what has been going on in this nation for at least the past four decades--to any rational, unbiased people--it is obvious that neither of the two major political parties is preferable to the other.

A cursory glance at out history proves that Republicans are every bit 100% as incompetent and irresponsible with fiscal matters as the democrats and republicans are every bit 100% as intrusive and invasive into the private lives of citizens as the Democrats.

Also, the unfortunate fact is there haven't been any actual "conservatives" in the Republican Party since sometime around the end of the Vietnam conflict.

The national-level politicians from BOTH parties are bought, sold and owned by special interests--multinational CEOs, heads of global banks and energy concerns, private contractors and lobbyists.

No reasonable person should ever vote for ANY Republican OR Democrat for any national office ever.

That's about where I'm at these days. Both political parties are beyond disappointing. I'm glad that the political parties are not the end-all-be-all, and that I don't look to politicians to give me peace, comfort, and happiness.

[Johnhw2]

Originally Posted by Griffis

To anyone remotely aware of what has been going on in this nation for at least the past four decades--to any rational, unbiased people--it is obvious that neither of the two major political parties is preferable to the other.

A cursory glance at out history proves that Republicans are every bit 100% as incompetent and irresponsible with fiscal matters as the democrats and republicans are every bit 100% as intrusive and invasive into the private lives of citizens as the Democrats.

Also, the unfortunate fact is there haven't been any actual "conservatives" in the Republican Party since sometime around the end of the Vietnam conflict.

The national-level politicians from BOTH parties are bought, sold and owned by special interests--multinational CEOs, heads of global banks and energy concerns, private contractors and lobbyists.

No reasonable person should ever vote for ANY Republican OR Democrat for any national office ever.

I agree that both parties are incapabable of running a big bloated fed gov. The difference is the dems still think we need a bigger incompetent fed gov and the GOP knows its too big and doesn't want itto mushroom and grow fast. We are better off letting the states decide how much gov should TRY to do, that way when they screwup people can move to another less screwed up state. If big gov was the answer Europe would be more crowded than it is.

[Jammie]

Originally Posted by Johnhw2

Liberals have no sense of fiscal matters... the answer to spending more than you take in tax revenues is put it on the credit card. Michigan and Illinois are just two headed for disaster....I for one could care less they re upset with Coburn or anyone else in congress.. they screwed this up locally and can not expect a national bailout

Well, I voted for G.W. both times and regret my second vote for him. I also voted for President Obama both times and at this point, am still comfortable in my votes.

The president doesn't seem to have all the power and control that many people think he has. Congress has a huge say-so in what will happen in this country and sometimes that's unfortunate. At least they're starting to attempt to get along so they can get something done. There are also so many outside variables to consider, such as 9/11, etc.

Keep in mind that Pres. Bush walked into the office in the black and left with a 12 trillion dollar deficit. He is responsible for the "Bush tax cuts" and you can't cut taxes and start two wars. I'm not complaining about the tax cuts, but war has never been that appealing to me.

Our deficit is now over 16 trillion, Bush tax cuts have been extended, so IMHO it doesn't look like there's only one party/president who is responsible for our debt to China.

I still have a lot of faith in our country and we're just going through a rough spell. We've come through them before and we will again.

I still stand by my original thoughts that if an official/rep wants things cut, they need to start in the state they are representing rather then reach into someone else's state and want things closed.