[Synopsis]

Originally Posted by peggydavis

Good for you, Colleen.

I'm not surprised to see Hillary win OK. I hate to see McCain winning so far though.

Me too. I can't stand him anymore. I respect what he did for our country in his service and imprisonment but he has turned angry, temperamental, and pro-illegal immigration. Sorry, I'm all for legal immigration, but not illegal immigration.

Check out the man's temper.


YouTube - KSAZ: McCain Temper Flairs Up Against GOP Senator


YouTube - McCain Denies Having "McCain Moments" ... Has "Moments"

[Goodpasture]

Originally Posted by TheComputerGuy

You claim to be a "curmudgeon". But if you really were...

By whose standards are you defining that?

Originally Posted by TheComputerGuy

How can you not like a guy who wants to:

Abolish the IRS

And where would those nosy a**holes get work? welfare? I'm not going to pay them.......

Originally Posted by TheComputerGuy

Abolish the Department of Education (in favor of the states having control)

All we need to do is get rid of no child left behind. But poor districts need the assistance.

Originally Posted by TheComputerGuy

Leave the U.N.

I could agree with that if we were able to have some sort of international controls on dictators.....not that we do now, but it would be nice.

Originally Posted by TheComputerGuy

Go to a gold standard

Not sure that is economically sound. I remember when we WERE on a gold standard (at least I remember when gold bullion was illegal for people to buy), and we had some pretty serious problems. Value is found in exchange. I don't think a gold standard would slow down inflation or reverse depression.

Originally Posted by TheComputerGuy

Bring our military back to our own borders (With the money we'd save, we could build LOTS of aircraft carriers to project power anywhere we needed to, pretty quickly.)

That can be done without a Bircher trying to do it.

Originally Posted by TheComputerGuy

Stop foreign aid (and keep the money here)

Not a good economic plan. Encouraging other nations to spend money here is beneficial to our economy.

Originally Posted by TheComputerGuy

Avoid foreign entanglements

I live with a woman from Holland....does that mean she has to move out?

Originally Posted by TheComputerGuy

Is pro 2nd amendment

You mean I could shoot my rifle from the front porch? Wait a second....I can do that already......never mind.

Originally Posted by TheComputerGuy

Is pro life

Last October I aquired a 3 month old Jack Russell Pup. Last Thursday I buried her because the neighbors dogs broke her back. Both the neighbors dogs have disappeared. There is no such thing as a right to life.

Originally Posted by TheComputerGuy

For fair trade policies...

I can buy that one

Originally Posted by TheComputerGuy

Against NAFTA and CAFTA (read "SHAFTA"

That too

Originally Posted by TheComputerGuy

Would protect our property rights

I do that pretty well on my own.

Originally Posted by TheComputerGuy

I could go on if you like....

Ok, go for it

Originally Posted by TheComputerGuy

From your previous posts, you sounded like a good, solid guy who believes in most of those things.

With some caveats

Originally Posted by TheComputerGuy

Are you sure you're not one of those really nice guys who wants to make the whole world butterflies and sunshine? (Just kidding... Please don't scalp me! )

butterflies and sunshine? Me? I LIKE weather. Would rather have weather than climate any day.

Originally Posted by TheComputerGuy

Okies DO have a sense of humor and humility right?
RIGHT????

I don't think so.

Originally Posted by TheComputerGuy

I'm still welcome in OK.... Right???

We will have to discuss it now that we learned you are not an anarchist, just a libertarian wanna be........

[Mattie Jo]

Originally Posted by peggydavis

McCain is too warlike for me so I don't think I will be voting for him under any circumstances. Either Obama or Hillary would be all right with me. It is not over yet, so we don't know who our choice will be.

It'll be all over if McCain gets in. He is too war like. I also agree that he is angry.

[Synopsis]

Anyone else think Ron Paul looks like Fred Astaire?

[peggydavis]

I do see a resemblance there, Synopsis. Poor old Ron Paul. At least he made some people think. I wonder who will be on the ballot in November for Oklahoma as Independents or other parties.

Here is how the votes went in Oklahoma:

Candidates name: # of votes | % precincts
2,220 of 2,220 precincts - 100 percent
Democrats:
x-Hillary Clinton: 228,597 - 55 percent
Barack Obama: 130,206 - 31 percent
John Edwards: 42,853 - 10 percent
Bill Richardson: 7,116 - 2 percent
Jim Rogers 3,894: - 1 percent
Chris Dodd 2,516: - 1 percent
Dennis Kucinich: 2,387 - 1 percent
Republicans:
x-John McCain 123,094: - 37 percent
Mike Huckabee 111,996: - 33 percent
Mitt Romney 83,119: - 25 percent
Ron Paul 11,166: - 3 percent
Rudy Giuliani 2,421: - 1 percent
Fred Thompson 1,939: - 1 percent
Alan Keyes 817: - 0 percent
Jerry Curry 386: - 0 percent
Duncan Hunter 318: - 0 percent
Tom Tancredo 222: - 0 percent
Daniel Gilbert 125: - 0 percent

[colleeng47]

Originally Posted by jessaka

It'll be all over if McCain gets in. He is too war like. I also agree that he is angry.

He's too sure of himself and his opinions to be President.

[karibear]

Originally Posted by Synopsis

Anyone else think Ron Paul looks like Fred Astaire?

Hmm. I never thought Fred Astaire was that impressive. After all, Ginger Rogers did everything he did, only she did it backwards on high heels.

[TheComputerGuy]

Originally Posted by peggydavis

McCain is too warlike for me so I don't think I will be voting for him under any circumstances. Either Obama or Hillary would be all right with me. It is not over yet, so we don't know who our choice will be.

Don't give up yet...

Ron Paul could go independent and you could vote for him again...
(Which would ensure that you'd get Hellary or Hussien Obama anyway.)

If it comes down to McCain, Hellary or Obama, I couldn't vote...
I stopped voting for the lesser of 2 evils back in 2004.
(Look what it got us then.)

[TheComputerGuy]

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

By whose standards are you defining that?

My own.... What a silly question.

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

And where would those nosy a**holes get work? welfare? I'm not going to pay them.......

Did you know that Colleen currently works for them?
Hope she doesn't see this.

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

All we need to do is get rid of no child left behind. But poor districts need the assistance.

ALL districts need to get rid of most of their school board members,
and the parents need to wake up.

More money than ever is being thrown at education, and we're getting worse results than ever.

Schools should spend more time on math, reading, science and history
and less time on Marxist / socialist indoctrination.

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

I could agree with that if we were able to have some sort of international controls on dictators.....not that we do now, but it would be nice.

We're very good at dealing with dictators directly...
Unfortunately, we never seem to leave after we get the job done.
Germany, Japan, Korea, Kosovo, Colombia, Iraq etc...

The U.N. on the other hand is lousy at dealing with anything except trying to find ways to create global taxes and global government.

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

Not sure that is economically sound. I remember when we WERE on a gold standard (at least I remember when gold bullion was illegal for people to buy), and we had some pretty serious problems. Value is found in exchange. I don't think a gold standard would slow down inflation or reverse depression.

Printing new dollars makes our old dollars worth less.

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

That can be done without a Bircher trying to do it.

He's of a Libertarian bent, but how do you get the Bircher analogy?

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

Not a good economic plan. Encouraging other nations to spend money here is beneficial to our economy.

Yeah, except they're starting to own more of the country than we do.

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

I live with a woman from Holland....does that mean she has to move out?

No, YOU can have all the foreign "entanglements" that you like...
Just not on a federal level and not with my money.

Example:
It's nice if you buy schousse dinner... (Or do you guys go Dutch treat?)
but the bill should not be paid out of our taxes.

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

You mean I could shoot my rifle from the front porch? Wait a second....I can do that already......never mind.

No I mean you could legally carry a concealed weapon without jumping through a bunch of hoops and spending any money. The 2nd amendment is an INDIVIDUAL right... (Contrary to current popular belief.)

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

Last October I aquired a 3 month old Jack Russell Pup. Last Thursday I buried her because the neighbors dogs broke her back. Both the neighbors dogs have disappeared. There is no such thing as a right to life.

That was just a coincidence though.

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

I can buy that one

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

That too

Then you may want to reconsider who you plan to vote for, because you're going to get more of the same with either of the 3 currently leading candidates.

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

I do that pretty well on my own.

Not against a S.W.A.T. team or the BATFE.

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

Ok, go for it

Is your mind open enough to make it worth my time???

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

With some caveats

Yeah... But we won't discuss that here.

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

butterflies and sunshine? Me? I LIKE weather. Would rather have weather than climate any day.

Don't lie....
schousse told us what an old softy you are.

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

I don't think so.

Oooops!

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

We will have to discuss it now that we learned you are not an anarchist, just a libertarian wanna be........

I don't like anarchy.
I'm not a Libertarian...
I like some of their platform, but dislike a lot of it also.
Neither the Republicans or Democrats fully represent my beliefs.
Quite frankly they're about the same these days.
The Constitution Party looks okay, but.... (Never gonna happen.)

Perhaps our only hope would be a benevolent dictatorship
with ME in charge.

I've stated my platform to both liberals and conservatives,
and most said they would vote for it.

CG for president anyone???

I better lay off the coffee this morning before I start an international incident!

[Synopsis]

The two parties are really no different these days. Even if a more conservative person gets into the office (George Bush is NOT a conservative), he or she is no more conservative than a liberal was 15 years ago.

The country has been moving aggressively to the left for the last 30 or 40 years. You want proof?

John F. Kennedy, if he were alive today would be considered a staunch conservative hands down.

On the same note, most Republicans running for office or already holding office today would be liberal Democrats in JFK's era.

Progressive? I think not. And although I DO like the idea of a balance between conservative and liberal (I really do), there is no balance anymore; both parties have moved so far to the left the scales have tilted.