What is Oklahoma like? (May: eat, pictures, worth)
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This past Fall, I was retuning from Latimer County in S. E. Oklahoma after visiting one of my relatives. It was late afternoon as I stoped in this rather remote part of Oklahoma's panhandle to eat a balogna sandwich and drink some soda pop, where I observed the fenced in razor grass on what I believe to be government land behind a four or five strand barb wire fence I later had to crawl under to retreive my cat, next to a designated rest stop where the wind blows constantly, with a table, a structure that looks like a car port, and a dirt road between the road thru the rest stop and the highway. Giving my little friend, my tom cat, a chance to stretch and do his thing. There were two stones I had taken pictures of earlier on another trip thru that area, hoping I wouldn't have to copy everything on those stones by hand, if I could copy that info from the negatives, but; those stones are a light tan and the writing on them is also a light tan. One of those stones has a map of the area as it was before Oklahoma became a state, designating the names of places I'll get too later.
The junction point is approximately at the point where U. S. 283 separates from U. S. hwy. 270 about 11 or 12 miles northwest of Laverne and about 64 miles east of Liberal Kansas..., on hwy. 270.
The stones read:
You are now entering Old No Mans Land Colorado/Kansas 37th. parallel called "No Mans Land until 1890", then known as Beaver County. It became the panhandle of Oklahoma's Statehood in 1907. Texas line 36'30' Parallel.
The 37th. Parallel was chosen as the southern boundary of Colorado and Kansas's, New Mexico's Eastern boundary was the 103 meridian by the Union with 36'30' Parallel as their Northern Boundary. This northern boundary of Texas is the only state boundary set by the Missouri Comprimise (Mason-Dixon). The Cherokee outlet stopped at the 100th. Meridian. This left a strip of land 34 miles wide and 167 miles long without any form of government. Congress called it 'The Public Land Strip'. But it became known as 'No Mans Land' being outside of any jurisdiction or any form of government, it became the home of outlaws, cowboys, and settlers. Beaver City was the largest town in the area by the Organic Act of 1890, Congress attached this unclaimed land to the newly organized Oklahoma Territory, with Beaver City as the county seat it continued thus until Oklahoma was admitted to the union on Saturday, November 16, 1907. Three counties were formed out of the panhandle - Beaver, Texas and Cimarron.
Beaver Historical Society, Inc. Oklahoma Historical Society.
Historical Sites - Beaver County
Alpine, Forgan, Mclane
Balko, Gate, Neutral City
Beaver, Golden, Rothwell
Benton, Ivanhoe, Slapout
Blue Grass, Knowles, Sod Town
Boyd, Lockwood, Sophia
Clear, Lake Logan, Sunset
Cline, Madison, Surprise
Elmwood, Sharps, Creek Crossing, Turpin
Flores, Flat Top mound
James Lane Cabin - Beaver
Presbyterian Church - Beaver
Sharps Creek Crossing Archaeology Site
Beaver County Estension home Markers - organized 1917
Beaver County Historical Society, Inc. Organized 1969
located on Harper County line and U. S. 64
N.S. - 168 and E. W. 12
P. S. The second stone also has a map on it showing you exactly where each of the above mentioned places is at.
This is high desert country.., which is much different than low desert country!
The elevation and climate is different, also the vegetation that grows wild there is different.
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After reading all of these statements and stories about pure genuine behavior from Oklahomans, I was wondering how it would be in my case. I personally have no plans to attend a college in the state, as I am already (stuck) in one for at least another year. What I really wanted to know is sort of touchy and I apologize in advance if I end up making anyone feel uncomfortable, but would someone who's a minority have the same experience in OK, and would it depend on which minority (like how Asians are specifically respected in the East, Hispanics specifically not liked in the Southwest, etc.)? As the OP, I live in Maryland as well, but the rudeness I've experience goes beyond the drivers. Trust me when I say my treatment in this so-called liberal state equates that to a Jewish person in Nazi Germany w/o the physical concentration camps. I would be lying if I denied wanting to live a more simpler life w/ warm weather, nice people, sweet [looking and personality] women, and a slower pace of life. But seeing how certain minorities have been excluded from that easier way of life in the South[east] and seeing the Primary results for OK, I just wanted to see if I as a minority could truly live a more relaxed way of life.
I haven't lived in OK long enough to truly comment on your question, but I can tell you that my daughter is middle eastern Indian. She started as a new student at Mustang High School a couple of weeks ago. She has had an entire group of friends to eat lunch with since the day she started. She has a different group of friends on her bus, one of which is a young man who asked her out. She had one girl invite her to go horseback riding sometime soon on her horses. My daughter is friendly, open and caring. She doesn't expect anyone to treat her differently, and therefore from what I've seen, no one does.
I think it's all about how you treat others. If someone has a chip on their shoulder because of whatever, be that because they are a minority or maybe they are just hard to get along with, you'll be treated how you treat others. I was up in Norman last week (I live in Texas, although I'm from Oklahoma) and I ran across all kinds of people of different races and each and every one of them were some of the friendliest, easy going people I have ever met. And I didn't even know these people! Okies, of any race, are just some of the most decent people there are anywhere.
I'm thinking that the OSU atmosphere will be better then the SDSU atmosphere, different but better. (even though I haven't been to either one yet) My friends and family think I'm crazy for wanting to go to OSU instead of San Diego but I think it will be an enlightening experience. I think I could do the whole "Simple Life" type of thing. Making my own fun and appreciated the simple things in life. Instead of worrying if I'm wearing the right clothing and driving the right car which is what I'm sure would happen at SDSU to some degree, I could be having fun at football games and enjoying the great outdoors. I'm not saying everyone in Southern California or San Diego or SDSU are like that but I've been in touch with one girl that lives in Los Angeles and is going to SDSU next year. She's a sweet girl but very superficial. I would so rather go for the nice welcoming southern hospitality and the "yall come back now ya hear" rather then the "Oh my god you're wearing clothes from Wal-Mart!?" or "My daddy bought me a BMW. What type of car do you have Casey?" (sorry I know I'm probably stereotyping but its making me laugh). While doing my research on OSU and Oklahoma (and when I say "research" I mean just googling OSU, Oklahoma etc.) I have come across Eskimo Joe's. What is it? Is it just a restaurant or something more? Also what's the strip? I assume its something to the degree of the Las Vegas strip but Oklahoma style. (without all the prostitutes and casinos probably). Maybe I'm the only one but I can't wait to get out of high school and live on my own, go to OSU and start college. I've out grown high school and want to get out of Maryland!
And yes Maryland prides itself on it's excellence sea food!! (the crabs here are to die for!) And I'm not talking about the crab cakes (even though they are good) I'm talking about the full huge crabs that you take and break all there little legs off and eat the insides! Yum!! Now I want some crabs...
Well, I have lived in Stillwater since 1978. I graduated from OSU and have lived here since then so I will give you my insight.
Stillwater is a farming community with a major university in the middle of it. You will certainly not find the big city atmosphere here but Tulsa and Oklahoma City are only 65 miles away.
You will find the people here very friendly and hospitable. The natives here welcome students from all over the world and quite honestly the merchants here understands who "butters their bread" and they often cater to the students. And yes, your impression of folks here will be one of "Howdy" and "yall come back".
The crime here rate here is low. In fact a bad habit of mine is one of leaving my car and house unlocked. In the 30 years I have lived here my house or car has never been broken into.
Eskimo Joe's is a local bar/popular hangout that was started back in the late 70's. It is now a bar/grill. It's claim to fame is that supposedly it is the number 1 Tee shirt seller, just ahead of Hard Rock cafe.
The strip is nothing like the strip in Vegas. It is simply a street with a collection of bars, eating establishmnts and other merchants. Be sure and check out Coney Island. Great hot dogs and onion burgers.
Alot of activity centers around college sports, especially football & basketball. Before you end your college career, half of your wardrobe will be orange. Be sure and experience that while you are here. On a side note, a basketball player that played here in the early 90's was from Baltimore, Thomas Jordan.
Alot of students come here and fall in love with the place and never leave. I did. It is a great place to live and raise a family.
I would think that in the long run OSU would be a better value compared to San Diego, ie cost of living and because of the great people that live here.
Well, there will be no seafood here like in Maryland but I can fry up some delicious catfish that will make you forget seafood!!!
I hope you make the decision to come to OSU. You will not regret it.
If you would like any more info. do not hesitate to contact me and I would be happy to help you anyway I can. email@example.com
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Originally Posted by Goodpasture
And we can guarandamtee you we can do calf fries WAY better than any you will get in Maryland.........
Is that considered "Coast to Coast" cookin' ?
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