[Howest2008]

Originally Posted by colleeng47

The rights granted in heterosexual relationships have nothing "special" about them. They are basic human rights to love and live with the person of your choice, to share your lives, including money and possessions. It's the right to be with the person you love when they're sick or dying. It's the right to raise a family if that is your desire. It's the right to protect the person of your choice by providing health and other benefits. What's so wrong about that being applied to everyone? I have seen the most hateful, violent, degrading heterosexual relationships (some with, unfortunately, children). To my way of thinking love means a heck of a lot more than what should be "reserved" for certain groups of people.

Homosexuals have that right in California it's called "Domestic Partnership" yet they still want Homosexual Marriage , well I guess it's just the Homosexual Agenda "make" everyone think that Homosexuality is just as normal as Heterosexuality...then why is 95% of the world population Heterosexual and 5% Homosexual...and why is it so important for Homosexuals to have the Approval of Heterosexuals anyways.

[_redbird_]

Originally Posted by Howest2008

Homosexuals have that right in California it's called "Domestic Partnership" yet they still want Homosexual Marriage , well I guess it's just the Homosexual Agenda "make" everyone think that Homosexuality is just as normal as Heterosexuality...then why is 95% of the world population Heterosexual and 5% Homosexual...and why is it so important for Homosexuals to have the Approval of Heterosexuals anyways.

You have it all wrong. Geez, where to start. Even the gay rights activists don't speak for all homosexuals anymore than any activist speaks for ~all~ heterosexuals on any issue.

Havind said that, there is no homosexual agenda anymore than there is a heterosexual agenda. Every group of people, whether it be white, black, gay or straight, has different viewpoints and worldviews, and religious beliefs.

To say homosexuals want (whatever) is to infer all homosexuals want (whatever). Wrong. You cannot speak for what all homosexuals want. Unless you have some insight into every homosexual's mindset. Which is a power I seriously doubt you want~!

No one knows exactly what percentile is gay, straight, or bisexual. Its a moot point. Who cares?
Besides, there are those who live a str8 lifestyle, maybe a heterosexual marriage, goes to church every sunday, and post on internet forums making guesses about what gay people want,... all of which does not make them straight.
If 5% of the population tuck their tshirts into their underwear, does that mean they are not "normal"?

What makes you believe homosexuals want the approval of heterosexuals?
Where did you get that from? Are you even listening to yourself?

Think about all the idiots, rednecks, goobers, bubbas, and representatives who are supposedly straight. Do YOU want their approval? I think you need to reword your arguments. Or maybe take some time and really figure out why you are so against gays. Just say you are against the homosexual lifestyle.. and leave it at that. And everyone will respect your opinion.

This thread is turning into a trollfest. Thank you for your opinion, it really comes as no surprise and I am sure there is another person who wants to come forward now and shake their fist at the gay population and air out their feelings on gay issues.

The OP brought to light some statements made by Rep. Kern. My point from the beginning is to take issue with her statement(s) that gay rights activists are like 911 terrorists. I am neither for nor against gay rights, I just feel Rep. made some asinine remarks in her effort to garner the republican vote.

I still say gay rights activists are not in the same ball park as terrorists.

This thread seems to be turning a magnet for posts with anti-gay rhetoric, who do not discuss gay rights, but who want to rehash tired old anti-gay arguments. I have heard all the arguments from both sides for well over 30 years.

This thread is moving away from its OP, and will wind up being moved to the P&OC forum.

[peggydavis]

I think we can have a rational discussion about politicians in Oklahoma who use the homosexual issue in their campaigns. As long as we don't become too angry and start attacking each other, I think it is useful, so far. I will leave it open for a while longer.

[Goodpasture]

In Native American cultures, male children who display feminine characteristics at an early age are valued by the tribe as a sacred trust. It is believed that the Great Spirit has sent this child to them as a go-between for males and females, a bridge between the sexes who understands both sides of the human condition.

Such a child is apprenticed to a shaman, or holy man of the tribe. In his training, he learns the traditional work of both sexes, dresses as a woman, and usually performs the functions of healer and arbiter for his people.

The European word for this person is "berdache". Among the Zuni, for example, it is "lhamana".

It appears to me that for much of the European history of North America that the nature of mankind has been subverted to a role that has no basis in reality. What is amazing to me, is that with our knowledge of genetics, those superstitions have not been relegated to the same spiritual rubbish pile as the flat earth theory.

[Annemieke Roell]

Originally Posted by Howest2008

...then why is 95% of the world population Heterosexual and 5% Homosexual...and why is it so important for Homosexuals to have the Approval of Heterosexuals anyways.

How you figure that? There are plenty of married, churchgoing men and women with children living the hetero sexual lifestyle who are so deep in the closet they haven't seen daylight in decades.

Just look at some preachers and politicians who were recently "uncovered".

And gays are not looking for anybody's approval. They just want to be able to live their lives like any other tax payer.

I tell you ..... if I were gay I'd stop paying taxes .......

[colleeng47]

Originally Posted by Howest2008

Homosexuals have that right in California it's called "Domestic Partnership" yet they still want Homosexual Marriage , well I guess it's just the Homosexual Agenda "make" everyone think that Homosexuality is just as normal as Heterosexuality...then why is 95% of the world population Heterosexual and 5% Homosexual...and why is it so important for Homosexuals to have the Approval of Heterosexuals anyways.

Whoa -- time out. Whatever makes you think that one group of productive American adult citizens (homosexuals) feel they need the approval of another group of productive American adult citizens (heterosexuals)?

Also, I would appreciate it if you post could post the research data you have for the statistics you espoused. I always love to learn.

[tggrbounce9]

Originally Posted by Howest2008

Homosexuals have that right in California it's called "Domestic Partnership" yet they still want Homosexual Marriage , well I guess it's just the Homosexual Agenda "make" everyone think that Homosexuality is just as normal as Heterosexuality...then why is 95% of the world population Heterosexual and 5% Homosexual...and why is it so important for Homosexuals to have the Approval of Heterosexuals anyways.

More than 5% of people are homosexual... they are just afraid to admit it, LOL You need to knock that 95% number down because BIsexual people are like in the middle, not straight or gay and then you have some people who are neither and just do not like sex at all so that also puts them in a completely different category!