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Old 06-26-2018, 10:15 AM
 
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Religion shouldn't really even be in the discussion at all. I mean seriously, why should pastors have the authority to deny people beneficial medicine because they are worried somebody, somewhere will use recreationally? However, this is Oklahoma and the Baptist church is to Oklahoma what the Mormon church is to Utah. The Baptist church still has a puritanical side that wants laws that guarantee nobody anywhere can have any fun. They also tend to think that just because something is illegal that it doesn't exist. Oklahoma and Utah are the two states where de-facto theocracy is still in place and the church is almost an additional branch of government.

If medical marijuana passes here, the tide has turned nationwide. Oklahoma is the most conservative and religious authoritarian state in the US.
You are still in OKC?
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Old 06-26-2018, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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I am very much for it and on my way to vote now. I have bad low back pain (chronic) and it DEFINITELY helps with that. I was never a smoker, and only fairly recently learned how beneficial it is.
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Old 06-26-2018, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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The silly Reefer Madness ads are still running on TV. After it's all over, I hope it can be said those ridiculous TV ads backfired on them, over $800,000 wasted on a stupid TV ad campaign.
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Old 06-26-2018, 12:12 PM
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Location: Cushing OK
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The silly Reefer Madness ads are still running on TV. After it's all over, I hope it can be said those ridiculous TV ads backfired on them, over $800,000 wasted on a stupid TV ad campaign.

Just think of how many people in need of some kind of care, along with pain issues, could have been helped by that 800,000. And these churches are not even dealing in religion, but power. Even if they knew their arguments were all just lies, its really all about power.
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Old 06-26-2018, 01:04 PM
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Location: Trumpville
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You are still in OKC?

Unfortunately.


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Just think of how many people in need of some kind of care, along with pain issues, could have been helped by that 800,000. And these churches are not even dealing in religion, but power. Even if they knew their arguments were all just lies, its really all about power.

That's a fact of life in Oklahoma. The Baptist church rules with an iron fist and they kick and scream any time their power is threatened.
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Old 06-26-2018, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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That's a fact of life in Oklahoma. The Baptist church rules with an iron fist and they kick and scream any time their power is threatened.
For an example, the First Baptist Church in Pryor on Sunday held more than a two hour discussion on SQ788. It was not meant as a forum. No questions were allowed to be asked. The panel of around 8 people all spoke out against SQ788. It all sounded like we were voting on recreational marijuana, not medical.
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Old 06-26-2018, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Oklahoma Will Likely Legalize Medical Cannabis Today

Well-funded anti-cannabis advertising in Oklahoma not expected to dissuade voters.
https://cannabiswire.com/2018/06/26/...ical-cannabis/
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Old 06-26-2018, 02:40 PM
 
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Religion shouldn't really even be in the discussion at all. I mean seriously, why should pastors have the authority to deny people beneficial medicine because they are worried somebody, somewhere will use recreationally? However, this is Oklahoma and the Baptist church is to Oklahoma what the Mormon church is to Utah. The Baptist church still has a puritanical side that wants laws that guarantee nobody anywhere can have any fun. They also tend to think that just because something is illegal that it doesn't exist. Oklahoma and Utah are the two states where de-facto theocracy is still in place and the church is almost an additional branch of government.

If medical marijuana passes here, the tide has turned nationwide. Oklahoma is the most conservative and religious authoritarian state in the US.
I have rental property here. I am in Oklahoma off and on all year long. I am an atheist and I think you are being overly dramatic about the state. I have had no issues, no one has tried proselytizing me even mentioned anything regarding churches or religion and there is nothing that I have not been able to do here because the church does not want me to do it. And I don't smoke pot that is not an issue. I want it legal because I want people to have that choice. And from what I have read half the super religious baptists are supporting the "question". So its not like all the religious people are against it.

Only thing I hear sometimes when I am out and about at a store is "have a blessed day." I don't know what you do in your life where the church is restricting everything you do but I leave them alone and so far they have left me alone. I have also spent time in Idaho which has a big LDS population and again no one bothered me there either. I have lived in a dozen states including many blue ones and Oklahoma is just a state not that different than all the others. For me its a great place to make money and the people are very nice. And to drive out in the country this time of year, its a very beautiful place. I have zero complaints.

I do agree the tide has turned. With Oklahoma and Utah that makes 31 states.
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Old 06-26-2018, 02:45 PM
 
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Oklahoma Will Likely Legalize Medical Cannabis Today

Well-funded anti-cannabis advertising in Oklahoma not expected to dissuade voters.
https://cannabiswire.com/2018/06/26/...ical-cannabis/

Give them an E for the last minute effort I suppose. How many vote absentee?I read somewhere that absentee voting was up but not how many vote that way. Obviously, those people have locked it. In a few hours, we will know.
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Old 06-26-2018, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Billionaire Sheldon Adelson, Las Vegas casino mogul, has spent millions, over the years, trying to get these ballots defeated. He succeeded the first round in FL, and on the second round, it passed. It's been rumored that he helped defeat the ballot to legalize pot in AZ last year. So don't let that happen in OK! Good luck!

Myself, even living in NV with both recreational and medical marijuana approved, and with pain issues, I've tried some of it, but I'd much rather just take a Lortab.

I tried some of that Cheeba Chews one night at work, perhaps I bit off more than required, and I was completely out of it the rest of my shift, and fearful of driving home after work. That doesn't happen if I take a Lortab.
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