Wagoner, OK Brighton Arms Apts (Tulsa, Muskogee: travel, income, rental)

[jthomas]

If you like ants you will love Brighton Arms apts in Wagoner!! Tonight I spent two long hours killing ants and cleaning the **** things out of my refridgerator! The manager(Jamie) couldn't care less. For the past two years the little pests have been making my apt their home and the management here refuses to do anything about it. Tomorrow I move into my new place and no longer will have to live with ants and an apt manager who doesn't care.
Brighton Arms in Wagoner....if you like ant invasions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SinCity]

Of many towns in ocation between chain of lakes and Tulsa, Wagner got more votes than Pryor and other towns along 69. Would you tell me about the terrain around there and the city itself? I'm looking for treed and hilly, and a town that is small but has most everythingyou need. And without the burnt out buildings and dead main street. Some homes and prices in Wagner definitely are up my alley.

[jessaka]

I drove into Wagoner to go shopping yesterday. It is not hilly there, but Grand Lake or River is there. It is a pretty area and very rural. I liked the historic downtown. They are renovating it at the moment, and so I can see the potential there. The downtown building are all historic and haven't had a modern face lift, and I hope they never will. They even have a pharmacy in the historic district, along with some thrift stores and one antique store. They also have a train running close to the historic district, and that was rather neat.

Basically the historic district would be said to be dead because there are not enough stores that I think you are wanting, but they have other areas where there is a Walmart and a few small strip malls. But I don't think it will have everything you need, so for that you may have to go to Tulsa or Muskogee has more of what you need but not the charm of Wagoner.

They have a lot of trees.

They also have some other old run down historic buildings in town, and I hope they never tear them down. It would be nice if they were renovated, if they need to be and that people would open shops in them. I want to get back there on a day when it isn't too hot and take photos.

Hilly would be Tahlequah. But I really didn't mind the flatter area of Wagoner as it doesn't seem to show that much. Maybe because of all of the trees.

[SinCity]

You did so well with your desriptions. Actually, I want a large decent grocery store nearby and a WalMart within a half hour maybe, but as far as what I'd prefer to actually live in the middle of, I'd prefer small privately owned unique businesses. I'm a shopper when I want to be and will travel the distance when the urge hits, but I certainly have no need for the chain stores and restaurants the rest of the time.

Can you tell me about Pryor (land, scenery, businesses as you used to describe Wagoner) and the small towns along Hwy 69? Pryor looks like a great location neer the lakes with easy access to the city, and the small towns could rely on Wagoner and Pryor for major needs but otherwise provide small town living and acreage without the sprawl of malls and housing subdivisions. Any of those small towns have a unique flavor? Clean/signs of pride of ownership and community are what really trip my trigger to make a place feel like home. It's when dead cars and unkept properties are the norm that I want to avoid.

Keeping in mind that my first priority is heavly treed and not flat, does the terrain get hillier heading north towards Pryor, and south of Wagoner?

[jessaka]

Sin City, You sound like me. I like unique businesses in a historic town. I wish that Owl's had an old fashion sign on their business in Wagoner instead of a modern sign. I wonder where the grocery store is in Wagoner. When I grew up in a town like Wagoner they had two grocery stores in those old buildings and a few pharmacies. Walmart came in and they all closed, even the hardware stores in the historic downtown. Then they began tearing out old buildings and putting in fancy restaurants. Ugh. I don't say that Paso Robles, CA didn't do a good job, because the buildings are nice, but they ruined the historic part.

Walmart in Wagoner is less than 5 minutes from historic downtown.

Sin City, I will have to take another trip as I have never been to Pryor, etc.
I will do this soon. And I will take my camera. I love exploring old historic places.

Wagoner looked clean with historic homes. I didn't get a feel of any unique flavor but I liked the train going through town and that is unique. Reminds me of Van Buren, AR and Guthrie. If they remodel the historic district that would bring some uniqueness to it. Now Ft. Gibson I really thought was cute. I like that town. It is small and close to Muskogee, very close. It has two blocks of historic downtown, but not much shopping in the historic area. Muskogee, to me, though is not a fun place to shop, but at least they have a few strip malls and a small mall.

So far in Green County I like Tahlequah best, and that is why I moved here, but then I hadn't seen other towns. Just that it is in the foothills of the Ozarks, is clean, has a historic district that is neat but needs a lot more work to make it really unique. It has a lot of nice parks and a college. Can't say much for Downing Street with its modern trash stores nor can I say anything for the south end of town that is also modern urban sprawl. But it has a good feel to it. Ft. Gibson had a good feel to it too. Wagoner didn't, but I have high hopes for Wagoner. At least they have not torn down the shabby historic buildings that are around Main Street and on Query. How I would love to be a city planner. They would make cute shoe repair and bike repair shops as well as fruit stands, etc. Even flower stands.

I think heavily treed and hilly would be east of Wagoner. When you say south of Wagoner do you mean only as far as Muskogee? Why are you choosing to live along 69? Wagoner has trees but it is more cattle country. east of Wagoner is more forests. I love cattle country because I like seeing cows. But I love seeing trees, so I chose Tahlequah. We have some cows here too.

And I am not a realtor. Someone on here said that realtors come on here to push their town.

Hopefully one day this week I will take a drive. I am curious about other small towns. As for myself, I am always looking for a town that is historic but close to home and has unique shopping. I loved Guthrie, but I want a place closer. Then a friend told me that Siloam Springs, AR, just across the border is an artsy town. It is an hour from here.

Looking on the map there are only two towns between Pryor and Wagoner. I don't think they would fit your bill. Are you trying to be close to Tulsa? If so Why?

[SinCity]

Jessaka, the answer to why I am looking for the wooded country living with conveninece to Tulsa is very complex, considering both the present and the future. 1) Living near a city of size that offers daily needs plus big city within less than an hour is the best of both worlds and something I've liked about the location of the city in NV where I've lived for over 15 years. 2) If I (or my children, should they ever want to settle down near me) should need to seek the bigger dollar emloyment opportunities, easy commute to the bigger city would be necessary. 3) A biggy is property prices, both residential and commercial. 4) Sound advice from retirees I know is that they wish they had lived in an area for a year or more before buying their permanent "last" home. Since I don't want to rent, I am keeping my mind open that my first home purchase there could become a rental income property later, giving me a home base as I spend a year or more to get to know the area very well before determining where I want to own a business and the "last" permanent home. 5) As long as I keep my home purchase price to a minimum, I won't be pressed to be employed quickly and can support myself off lower paying and seasonal jobs available locally in the small towns. Due to an financial windfall in the near future, as long as the home can be rented (if not able to be sold easily), it meets the criteria of the rental income properties I intend to invest in anyway. Whew! was that more than you needed to know?!!

I loved the Tahlequah pictures you posted on another sight and am looking forward to the ones you take of nearby areas.

[moore020]

Wagoner is a nice town. If you are looking to purchase a home that you could later have as a rental property, it would be a wise choice. There are many historical homes in the town of Wagoner. I can think of at least three or four historical homes that are currently on the market for between $65-$105K. Renting them out later would be easy, I am currently looking for a rental house and have yet to find one that is less than $600 /month. The commute from the center of Wagoner to the far side of Tulsa is approximately 45 minutes. You can drive 20 minutes to Muskogee and find several neat flea markets and quaint shops. You can also drive to Tahlequah and eat at Sam and Ella's Chicken Palace, the best Pizza in the greater Tulsa Area. Tahlequah is about 20 minutes away.