[Renscout]

Dog Massacre At Liberty Lake.
Just wanting to let you know about this. Friend of mine was running his Hunting dogs at this lake. We need as much help as Possible. If you can get this message to as many people as possible to call ect.
The District Attorney has declined to press charges because "Mr Luckingbill was "in fear for his life".
PS he has given political donations to the DA.
Please email me with any help.
Please read the comments posted by their friends.
Five Dogs Slaughtered in Logan County Oklahoma
Five Dogs Slaughtered in Logan County Oklahoma
News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | Five dogs killed in Logan County
http://www.news9.com/global/story.asp?s=8269738
News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | DA declines to file charges in dog's deaths
News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | DA declines to file charges in dog's deaths
People to contact.[SIZE=4]
LOGAN COUNTY District Attorney
Robert Hudson
301 E. Harrison
Guthrie, Oklahoma 73044
(405) 372-4883 (405) 282-0655

Mr Luckinbills Attorney
Frank W. Davis
Phone: 405-282-1420[SIZE=3]

Guthrie Chief of Police
Damon R Devereaux
405 282 3535

Governor Brad Henry (D-OK)
Web Site: [/SIZE]www.governor.state.ok.us
E-mail: Contact Via 'Web Form.'
Phone405) 521 -2342

Senator Patrick Anderson (R-OK 19th)
E-mail: anderson@oksenate.gov
Phone405) 521-5630

Representative Jason W. Murphey (R-OK 31st)
E-mail: jason.murphey@okhouse.gov
Phone405) 557-7350

These people are 1st or 2nd term politicians
If they wont do anything about this make it there last elected term.
I will personally go and campaign against them.
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[Aconitum]

I copied & posted your thread on peta2.com.

I'll write & call those people you listed, too!!! Cause that's just WRONG!!!! One of my dogs was shot for almost the same reason. We lived in the country up in Kansas & some farmer shot my dog when I was in the 3rd grade, simply because he liked to run in the guy's field. But having 5 dogs shot ON PUBLIC PROPERTY no less, is absolutely ridiculous & something should definitely be done!

[Goodpasture]

If you've ever seen what dogs can do to a calf, you would understand the farmers a little better.

I saw a rott start to attack a calf once and went to get a gun, but before I could get back into the truck, a mama longhorn showed up......that dog never had a chance. The owner filed a complaint with the sheriff, but ended up getting told that if he didn't keep his dogs on his place, they would all be shot. Losing $1,000 calf is pretty serious stuff, and dogs running stock is a serious enough threat that drastic measures have to be taken.

[Aconitum]

you don't shoot people's pets on public property. end of story. maybe the farmer should sell his land & move somewhere else, away from the park. and there should be police at that park, looking for people who leave their dogs there, that way the people can be fined for animal cruelty & have the dogs given to the ASPCA or some shelter or something. but you just don't go off & shoot people's pets like that.

[Renscout]

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

If you've ever seen what dogs can do to a calf, you would understand the farmers a little better.

I saw a rott start to attack a calf once and went to get a gun, but before I could get back into the truck, a mama longhorn showed up......that dog never had a chance. The owner filed a complaint with the sheriff, but ended up getting told that if he didn't keep his dogs on his place, they would all be shot. Losing $1,000 calf is pretty serious stuff, and dogs running stock is a serious enough threat that drastic measures have to be taken.

Now I understand Mr Luckingbill just killed another neighbors dogs and got into a armed confrontation with this neighbor. Just a matter of time before he kills someone.

[Goodpasture]

Originally Posted by Renscout

...........Just a matter of time before he kills someone.

Quite a leap, isn't it?

[Synopsis]

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

If you've ever seen what dogs can do to a calf, you would understand the farmers a little better.

I saw a rott start to attack a calf once and went to get a gun, but before I could get back into the truck, a mama longhorn showed up......that dog never had a chance. The owner filed a complaint with the sheriff, but ended up getting told that if he didn't keep his dogs on his place, they would all be shot. Losing $1,000 calf is pretty serious stuff, and dogs running stock is a serious enough threat that drastic measures have to be taken.

These were hunting dogs though, and not rottweilers. And they were on public property. I've been around hunting dogs quite a bit growing up and these breeds are not the kind to go out hunting calves, if I recall.

I can understand if they were on this man's property, messing with his livestock, but to go onto public property and shoot five expensive and highly trained hunting dogs is wrong.

And now the guy is out killing other dogs? How many cattle has he lost to dogs, and how many of these cattle were killed by highly trained (and expensive) hunting dogs that are rarely seen outside of their owner's property except on a hunt?

More than likely, any of his calves that have been killed were killed at the hands (or paws, if you will) of stray roaming dogs, coyotes, or maybe even a rare panther in that part of the state. But it's not likely that some hunter with expensive dogs that hunt racoons and such has been taking them on to ranch land to hunt calves.

[Goodpasture]

Syn
It might very well be that these dogs are totally innocent and the guy is a homicidal maniac building up to killing little kids. but to assume that, without knowing the whole story is not a jump I am willing to make. But here are a few statements from the Christchurch New Zealand public site (and as such is not covered by copyright)

Dog Myths - Animals & Pets - Christchurch City Council
Myths About Dogs

Myth - Most dogs are physically or behaviourally incapable of killing livestock
Fact - All breeds and sizes of dogs, from Silky Terriers to Great Danes have been caught attacking livestock. Dogs as young as 3 months of age and as old as 12 years, unsterilised and sterilised dogs of both sexes, dogs with three legs, no teeth and with the best pedigree, have been involved.
Myth - Packs of wild or stray dogs are responsible.
Fact - Well-fed pets from small holdings or suburban homes near the attack site are usually responsible. A dog may attack on its own, with another dog from the same household or in the company of one or two dogs it associates with.
Myth - Only savage dogs kill livestock
Fact - Most dogs involved are friendly and approachable and do not look or behave like killers when interacting with people. This is why 90% of dog owners find it difficult to accept that their pets have killed livestock. Dogs behave very differently when on their own, away from home with other dogs or when attacking livestock
Myth - Only rogue dogs kill livestock
Fact - Chasing and attacking livestock is a normal dog behaviour. All dogs can chase, track and retrieve. They can also conclude these hunting behaviours by grabbing, biting and killing
Myth - A dog won't attack other peoples livestock if it doesn't attack its owner's livestock
Fact - Some livestock owners allow their dogs to play with or chase their own livestock. This enables the dog to gain the skills needed to attack livestock and gives it the opportunity to practice. Many of these dogs have been shot later for killing their owner's livestock, and many more have gone to other properties to attack and kill
Myth - Dogs will be covered in blood after an attack
Fact - Few dogs have blood on them. Whether they do or not will depend on how the livestock was killed, whether the carcass was fed on, and what the dog did afterwards
Myth - Dogs will continue to kill because they have a taste for blood as a result of previous attacks
Fact - Most dogs have been fed on meat from an early age and have already tasted blood. Dogs find chasing non-descript moving objects rewarding and this is why they are more likely to return to the scene of an attack
Myth - Dogs are killing for sport or fun
Fact - Dogs are having fun, but they don't kill for fun. Several animals may be killed or mauled, but very little will appear to have been eaten. Unless disturbed, dogs will take pieces off several carcasses. Together these will make a sizeable meal for the one or two dogs usually involved
Myth - Attacks on livestock only happen during the night
Fact - Dogs will attack livestock at any time of the day or night if they are given the opportunity. Daytime attacks are especially common in semi-rural areas
Myth - A trained dog will not attack livestock
Fact - Professional trainers will not give this guarantee if the dog is not under the control of its owner. Dogs will also chase and attack wildlife. Uncontrolled dogs and cats have destroyed many of the native animals in areas close to towns and cities. Dog owners must ensure that their dogs are under control at all times in areas where wildlife is present

FWIW, I do not support indiscriminate killing of anything. On the other hand, dogs running deer out of season or cattle or sheep deserve a swift shot to the head.

[karibear]

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

Syn
It might very well be that these dogs are totally innocent and the guy is a homicidal maniac building up to killing little kids. but to assume that, without knowing the whole story is not a jump I am willing to make. But here are a few statements from the Christchurch New Zealand public site (and as such is not covered by copyright)



FWIW, I do not support indiscriminate killing of anything. On the other hand, dogs running deer out of season or cattle or sheep deserve a swift shot to the head.

Which is the primary reason my dogs [with very few exceptions] have never run free. The one I have now, in spite of her age and the fact that she absolutely loves every human she sees and assumes any visitor has come to see HER, also has the highest prey drive of any dog I've ever had. Now she has a big fenced yard to run around in, protect from bunnies and stray cats, and armadillo droppings for 'perfume' - I have no idea what she'd make of the critter if she ever saw it. I do know that while we were in the pecan grove, she REALLY REALLY wanted to get to the little steers in the pasture next to us. There was one that used to get out regularly and not be able to find it's way back in, so it would hang around the camper at night and stare in the window at us - and Paddy would stare right back, literally drooling over all that hamburger on the hoof.

[Synopsis]

Originally Posted by Goodpasture

Syn
It might very well be that these dogs are totally innocent and the guy is a homicidal maniac building up to killing little kids. but to assume that, without knowing the whole story is not a jump I am willing to make. But here are a few statements from the Christchurch New Zealand public site (and as such is not covered by copyright)



FWIW, I do not support indiscriminate killing of anything. On the other hand, dogs running deer out of season or cattle or sheep deserve a swift shot to the head.

I agree GP. In this particular case, I think the man was wrong in killing this man's dogs, that's all I'm saying.