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06-25-2008, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by techienomad
As for computers, I've used many including TI, Commodore, Apple IIe, Amiga, various IBM junk, HP, Dell, Toshiba, Sony, and built my own. Basically, they're all the same, just with different stuff.
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Which kind of goes back to my rant on educational standards. The very first Apples were built in someone's garage. And if I recall the story right, Gates was the one who created DOS when he worked for IBM, and they weren't interested enough to copyright it - they told him he could keep it and do what he wanted with it. Presto - Microsoft. I have wondered a time or two just which of the world's many panhandlers was the twit who told him they didn't see any value in it.
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06-25-2008, 10:03 PM
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Who Do You Trust?
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I have wondered a time or two just which of the world's many panhandlers was the twit who told him they didn't see any value in it.
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Probably the same twit who wrote in Robin William's yearbook that he was "most unlikely to succeed", or maybe the twit who fired Burt Reynolds and Clint Eastwood from his studio on the same day because they had no future in films. 
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06-25-2008, 10:03 PM
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Townie, I will have to respectfully disagree with you. If the cost of living is so low in OK because nobody wants to live here, how do you explain the similarly low COL in Texas? Plus as posted in another thread, Okla. has seen a net in-migration of over 12,000 between 2005-2006, and I have a feeling it has probably stayed at least that high since then.
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Thanks for asking a really easy question to answer. So many, many outsiders don't want to move to Oklahoma, even though the price of living is low, is because the state has a bad reputation as a bad news, backward sounding kind of place. Since when does Oklahoma ever get into the news about something good and positive? Wouldn't it be nice if a good news story came out about Oklahoma that went out across the country that was so positive that it would make a lot of people think, "Hey, something's great is starting to happen in Oklahoma and I want to go move there, so I can be a part of it!"
Instead, outsiders are liable to get very ugly stories like about how much hatred and worry that Sally Kern has over the homosexual agenda. I'll admit, though, that the lastest migration figures may show that outsiders are getting more up to date on how Oklahoma is really like. After all, no one can possiby deny that Oklahoma has become a heck of a lot less overly conservative and uptight since 2000. And the list is rather long as to why.
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06-25-2008, 10:28 PM
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Thanks for asking a really easy question to answer. So many, many outsiders don't want to move to Oklahoma, even though the price of living is low, is because the state has a bad reputation as a bad news, backward sounding kind of place. Since when does Oklahoma ever get into the news about something good and positive? Wouldn't it be nice if a good news story came out about Oklahoma that went out across the country that was so positive that it would make a lot of people think, "Hey, something's great is starting to happen in Oklahoma and I want to go move there, so I can be a part of it!"
Instead, outsiders are liable to get very ugly stories like about how much hatred and worry that Sally Kern has over the homosexual agenda. I'll admit, though, that the lastest migration figures may show that outsiders are getting more up to date on how Oklahoma is really like. After all, no one can possiby deny that Oklahoma has become a heck of a lot less overly conservative and uptight since 2000. And the list is rather long as to why.
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Positive news? How about the recent illegal immigration bill we passed that was the first of it's kind. It's apparently pretty popular because most all the other states are drawing up their own versions!
Oklahoma illegal immigration law could spread to other states « Morning Coffee
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06-25-2008, 10:45 PM
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I rest my case
You don't realize how many people in the western states envy Oklahoma.
Many years ago a rumor was going around that Ky, OK, Tenn and ather state in the surrouning area were occupied by backwood people and insest families.
Later I found that the geographics stated in the rumor was off set alittle
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06-25-2008, 10:47 PM
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So far Arizona and Georgia has followed suit.
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06-26-2008, 02:32 PM
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Will people from Texas read that and think now is the right time to move to Oklahoma? I doubt it.
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06-26-2008, 03:58 PM
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So far Arizona and Georgia "has" followed suit.
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correction......."have"
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06-26-2008, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by karibear
Which kind of goes back to my rant on educational standards. The very first Apples were built in someone's garage. And if I recall the story right, Gates was the one who created DOS when he worked for IBM, and they weren't interested enough to copyright it - they told him he could keep it and do what he wanted with it. Presto - Microsoft. I have wondered a time or two just which of the world's many panhandlers was the twit who told him they didn't see any value in it.
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Well, Gates bought DOS from a private programmer and then leased it to IBM. By doing that, he retained the rights of licensing to others because IBM thought the money was in the machines and not in the software. Slick move on his part. Gates was a pretty good programmer himself going back to things like FORTRAN and COBOL. Those are ancient languages in computer standards, but laid the groundwork for things to come. Gates then adapted, manipulated, and re-created his GI (graphics interface) to what we know as Windows. Ironically, it was similar to Apple's GI, for which Microsoft was doing work for at the time. Apple believed the money was in the machines versus just licensing the software. Well, here we are today. Apple, HP, IBM, and others have gadgets/machines, while Microsoft has software - among other things.
As for education, good thing he dropped out of Harvard. 
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06-26-2008, 06:06 PM
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Been there, done that, own the t-shirt....
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Well, Gates bought DOS from a private programmer and then leased it to IBM. By doing that, he retained the rights of licensing to others because IBM thought the money was in the machines and not in the software. Slick move on his part. Gates was a pretty good programmer himself going back to things like FORTRAN and COBOL. Those are ancient languages in computer standards, but laid the groundwork for things to come. Gates then adapted, manipulated, and re-created his GI (graphics interface) to what we know as Windows. Ironically, it was similar to Apple's GI, for which Microsoft was doing work for at the time. Apple believed the money was in the machines versus just licensing the software. Well, here we are today. Apple, HP, IBM, and others have gadgets/machines, while Microsoft has software - among other things.
As for education, good thing he dropped out of Harvard. 
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Go rent the movie " Pirates Of Silicon Valley" folks!
You can see how both Bill Gates (Microsoft) and Steve Jobs (Apple)
are BOTH scumbags. 
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