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02-13-2009, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Synopsis
Dallas is a very liberal city in which the majority voted for Obama in the last election. Their city council is liberal as well. I am not singing the praises of Dallas being liberal, because I'm not a liberal myself, but facts are facts.
As for Phoenix being more liberal than Dallas, it isn't by a long stretch. Phoenix is far more conservative than Dallas, which isn't a bad thing IMO.
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Uhhh... Arizona voted for a Democrat (Clinton) in 1996 whereas Texas and Dallas voted for Dole. John McCain is from Phoenix, did you really expect Obama to lead there? Is that your rationale for stating that Dallas is more liberal than Phoenix? Do you really think Phoenix wouldn't have voted for Obama had anyone but McCain ran against Obama especially considering McCain only had a 4% lead two weeks in Maricopa before the general election and ended up winning by 8% in his home town. Dallas voted for Bush in the 2004 and 2000 elections. In addition, the surrounding counties of Denton, Tarrant and Collin was overwhelmingly for McCain and that is significant because those counties contain cities that make up the Dallas Ft. worth area. If Dallas, Denton, Tarrant and Collin merged into one large county the way Maricopa encompasses Phoenix, Tempe, Glendale, Scottsdale etc., the results would have favored McCain.
You didn't give this much thought or really look at this logically. For one thing, Phoenix is near the West Coast whereas Dallas is located in the south so it is going to be more liberal. We have a huge California population while Dallas has a large native population from Texas. Furthermore, Phoenix voted against Prop 107 in 2006 which was a gay marriage ban; do you think that would ever be rejected in Dallas? In addition, the religious majority in Dallas is overwhelmingly Southern Baptist which is a conservative evangelical group. I could provide more evidence but I've already made my point. Dallas is far more conservative than Phoenix to say the least.
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02-14-2009, 02:31 AM
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Get rid of that stinkin thinkin!
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Originally Posted by azriverfan.
Uhhh... Arizona voted for a Democrat (Clinton) in 1996 whereas Texas and Dallas voted for Dole. John McCain is from Phoenix, did you really expect Obama to lead there? Is that your rationale for stating that Dallas is more liberal than Phoenix? Do you really think Phoenix wouldn't have voted for Obama had anyone but McCain ran against Obama especially considering McCain only had a 4% lead two weeks in Maricopa before the general election and ended up winning by 8% in his home town. Dallas voted for Bush in the 2004 and 2000 elections. In addition, the surrounding counties of Denton, Tarrant and Collin was overwhelmingly for McCain and that is significant because those counties contain cities that make up the Dallas Ft. worth area. If Dallas, Denton, Tarrant and Collin merged into one large county the way Maricopa encompasses Phoenix, Tempe, Glendale, Scottsdale etc., the results would have favored McCain.
You didn't give this much thought or really look at this logically. For one thing, Phoenix is near the West Coast whereas Dallas is located in the south so it is going to be more liberal. We have a huge California population while Dallas has a large native population from Texas. Furthermore, Phoenix voted against Prop 107 in 2006 which was a gay marriage ban; do you think that would ever be rejected in Dallas? In addition, the religious majority in Dallas is overwhelmingly Southern Baptist which is a conservative evangelical group. I could provide more evidence but I've already made my point. Dallas is far more conservative than Phoenix to say the least.
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I go by statistics and not excuses because someone is "from there." So all of those liberal Phoenix residents just tossed Obama aside because "Well, McCain is from here so I guess I'll vote for him." Right.
BTW, you seem to have an odd fascination with Oklahoma. You camp out on these threads and do nothing but rail on and on with your opinions and against facts.
Who gives a darn that Phoenix is more conservative than Dallas? I could care less but I am stating facts while you talk about cultural aspects and so on.
Your ignorance about all of these topics that you attempt to sound knowledgeable of is really shining through with each and every post.
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02-14-2009, 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by azriverfan.
Uhhh... Arizona voted for a Democrat (Clinton) in 1996 whereas Texas and Dallas voted for Dole. John McCain is from Phoenix, did you really expect Obama to lead there? Is that your rationale for stating that Dallas is more liberal than Phoenix? Do you really think Phoenix wouldn't have voted for Obama had anyone but McCain ran against Obama especially considering McCain only had a 4% lead two weeks in Maricopa before the general election and ended up winning by 8% in his home town. Dallas voted for Bush in the 2004 and 2000 elections. In addition, the surrounding counties of Denton, Tarrant and Collin was overwhelmingly for McCain and that is significant because those counties contain cities that make up the Dallas Ft. worth area. If Dallas, Denton, Tarrant and Collin merged into one large county the way Maricopa encompasses Phoenix, Tempe, Glendale, Scottsdale etc., the results would have favored McCain.
You didn't give this much thought or really look at this logically. For one thing, Phoenix is near the West Coast whereas Dallas is located in the south so it is going to be more liberal. We have a huge California population while Dallas has a large native population from Texas. Furthermore, Phoenix voted against Prop 107 in 2006 which was a gay marriage ban; do you think that would ever be rejected in Dallas? In addition, the religious majority in Dallas is overwhelmingly Southern Baptist which is a conservative evangelical group. I could provide more evidence but I've already made my point. Dallas is far more conservative than Phoenix to say the least.
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Well, if you're wanting the title of being a more liberal city, it's all yours: liberal = 
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