[colleeng47]

Rules and regs in NJ was the same as PA, if not worse in some ways. NJ just added another tax to workers. They now have to pay a tax to fund a program to pay people who are out on the FMLA. It used to be you could be out for up to 8 weeks (without pay) to take care of a new born or adopted child, or a relative. Now starting July 1st, it becomes a paid leave. More taxes. More social programs.

BTW, not all northeasterns want to bring "paradise" to Oklahoma. I like things just the way they are here. I don't want government "protecting" me from myself and handing out my dollars to fund people's personal decisions.

/end of rant from this Jersey/Okie girl

[Synopsis]

Originally Posted by colleeng47

Rules and regs in NJ was the same as PA, if not worse in some ways. NJ just added another tax to workers. They now have to pay a tax to fund a program to pay people who are out on the FMLA. It used to be you could be out for up to 8 weeks (without pay) to take care of a new born or adopted child, or a relative. Now starting July 1st, it becomes a paid leave. More taxes. More social programs.

BTW, not all northeasterns want to bring "paradise" to Oklahoma. I like things just the way they are here. I don't want government "protecting" me from myself and handing out my dollars to fund people's personal decisions.

/end of rant from this Jersey/Okie girl

Applause! Applause!!

[TU 'cane]

Oklahoma is conservative for the most part, but don't get me wrong we are starting to gain quite a liberal population. Oklahoma City I think is becoming more liberal than any other city right now, things are popping up everywhere and diversity is slowly being seen in the downtown area.

My message, conservatives and Christians, accept things and don't hold us (the people, not liberals because I'm conservative myself) back, stay strong in your faith but don't go preaching to every single person, not everyone wants to hear it. I would hate to see OKC become a liberal city, OKC is a prime example of being conservative but stepping into the future with technologies, developments and diversity.

And about government here, less government is better. Let the people do their thing here. An example is house bill 1804, let the state do what it wants and how we want, if we want illegals out of here than so be it, state's power.

[Crosstimbers Okie]

People in central Oklahoma have always been tolorant and accepting of others whether they like them or not. It's the way we are. It's our culture.

Now, if you want to see real intolorance, travel a bit. Check out east or south central LA, or the south side of Chicago, or Washington D.C.

[nightbird47]

Originally Posted by Synopsis

Applause! Applause!!

Somewhere back in this thread is a post about how Californians would bring California with them. Not this one. After living in Riverside CA where fees are a way of life, its so refreshing to not have code enforcement coming by every month or so hoping to catch a fine. Don't even ask about the quagmire or rules to do anything.

I'm pagan and while I don't get into anyones face about it, I do wear symbols. I was concerned about that. But people here are far more tolerant than in Riverside. It was amazing to me that a local brought ceder to bless the house.

I keep my politcs to myself, would describe them as extremely eclectic, so the liberal/conservative thing doesn't include me. But nobody should assume that California is liberal. Some parts are but that does not include Riverside.

What I do notice strongly is in Riverside and other overpopulated urban areas there is this very strong sense of things falling apart. Its here too, but not so pronounced and immediate.

I loved this place from the time I visited. Couldn't wait for the lease to be up and move. I will reccomend it but only to the right people The ones who would miss the multiplex of theaters on the corner would not do well here anyway.

[TU 'cane]

Originally Posted by Crosstimbers Okie

People in central Oklahoma have always been tolorant and accepting of others whether they like them or not. It's the way we are. It's our culture.

Now, if you want to see real intolorance, travel a bit. Check out east or south central LA, or the south side of Chicago, or Washington D.C.

I wasn't just meaning central OK. But to be honest I never really knew that. That's good to know.

[StillwaterTownie]

Originally Posted by Crosstimbers Okie

People in central Oklahoma have always been tolorant and accepting of others whether they like them or not. It's the way we are. It's our culture.

Now, if you want to see real intolorance, travel a bit. Check out east or south central LA, or the south side of Chicago, or Washington D.C.

And it doesn't do much good to counter you with the looney anti-gay rantings of Sally Kern. Because you can counter by saying that two years ago Oklahoma City sent Oklahoma's first openly gay state representative to the State Capitol and this year he didn't have to run for reelection because, strangely enough, he had no opposition. That's the other side of the story that needs to be told when bringing up Sally Kern.

[lasomeday]

You could move to Norman. That is where most of the Liberals in Oklahoma are.

[Bass&Catfish2008]

Originally Posted by lasomeday

You could move to Norman. That is where most of the Liberals in Oklahoma are.

Oklahoma is arguably the most conservative state in the Union. We carried the highest percentage for McCain (I think it was about 65%...next closest was Mississippi, Alabama, and Arkansas) when compared to the rest of the states of the nation.

I would think that a place like Oklahoma would not suit most liberals too well....especially if your an East or West Coast liberal. Keep in mind that the self acclaimed "Liberals" in Oklahoma are generally more conservative than the Repubs in Cali or New York. The Dems in these parts tend to be more of the 'ol DixiCrat strain....as in the 'ol Solid South. Moreover, while the majority of Oklahomans identify with the Democratic Party we always vote conservative because most Okies are staunchly against abortion and for traditional family values. (Remember that Oklahoma is the BUCKLE of the Bible Belt.)

Also, I was born and raised in Norman and it is NOT liberal. Liberal compared to what???.........Noble, Oklahoma? Sure, there are some extremely liberal professors (transplants) @ the University of Oklahoma...but how much do they account for the 90,000 people that live in Norman? Again, to reiterate my main point, Okies are the most theologically/socially conservative folks on the block. (Which, in my opinion, is a very good thing. Just my two cents...it probably ain't worth that much, LOL.)

[linicx]

Grove, OK is a small progressive town. Housing is not terribly expensive but it is pricey enough to keep the riff-raff out. It's a sportsmans playground all year. Nobody cares what you do behind closed doors pr whether or not you go to church. I'ts fun place. Taxes are low and the weather is generally moderate.