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05-15-2007, 03:42 PM
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Yeah, these posts kind of make me scratch my head as well. Everyone is so into preaching about diversity and a diversity of opinions; especially those on the left.
But, when it comes down to it, they tend to flock with their own just like everyone else. Don't get me wrong, I'm not berating the OP of this thread, I just don't look at the general politics of a city on determining whether or not I would live there. The things that make the most sense to me are crime, standard of living, and so on. Whether or not a city is liberal or conservative alone has no bearing on whether or not I would live there. I have several very liberal friends and a couple of times I'll throw out a city or state that I think that I'd like to live in and most of the times the responses I get are based solely on whether the area is "liberal enough" for them to be able and stand to live there.. Go figure.
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flocking to their own is misleading, I am assuming they want to look for other open minded folks. If a city is liberal, its more than likely to accept a wider variety of people vs a conservative one that will accept only folks of certain type. If a person is either a minority, very different or very open, they want to find a place that is less likely to shun or mess with them. People just want to accepted, thats all, and in a liberal place, thats more than likely.
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05-15-2007, 04:29 PM
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Get rid of that stinkin thinkin!
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flocking to their own is misleading, I am assuming they want to look for other open minded folks. If a city is liberal, its more than likely to accept a wider variety of people vs a conservative one that will accept only folks of certain type. If a person is either a minority, very different or very open, they want to find a place that is less likely to shun or mess with them. People just want to accepted, thats all, and in a liberal place, thats more than likely.
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Liberals being more "open-minded" than conservatives? Hardly. I've found some very close minded individuals from a variety of political leanings. I've found that liberals will accept you as long as you are liberal thinking like them. I have a friend who is liberal and it's hard to talk with him without him trying to change my mind and forget about points of views on things. I respect your opinion, but it's just like mine, an opinion and not fact.
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05-15-2007, 06:19 PM
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Liberals being more "open-minded" than conservatives? Hardly. I've found some very close minded individuals from a variety of political leanings. I've found that liberals will accept you as long as you are liberal thinking like them. I have a friend who is liberal and it's hard to talk with him without him trying to change my mind and forget about points of views on things. I respect your opinion, but it's just like mine, an opinion and not fact.
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you and I are on the same wave length:  that's for certain.
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05-15-2007, 07:54 PM
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OMG, there are now three of us that think the same way.  Pretty scary!!!
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06-20-2007, 10:40 PM
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Austin vibe
There are plenty of liberal areas in OKC, do not be intimidated by the amount of churches we have listed in the yellow pages. A more liberal area of town, is the Paseo District, it has that arty sort of vibe, kind of like a much smaller "Austin, Drag." It's really a growing community in Oklahoma City, its nice to live somewhere where things don't feel like there at maximum capacity. I lived in Austin for a couple years, and must say I don't really miss it.
The Paseo Arts District
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06-21-2007, 11:30 AM
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Get rid of that stinkin thinkin!
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That Paseo Art District looks pretty cool.
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06-21-2007, 12:17 PM
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Paris on Paseo coming up- Im sure it will be a great time. All the events are very well organized now, with larger attendance. I didnt know they had 21 galleries just in the paseo district. OKC has great grassroots for the arts. It might not have a huge recognized museum, but a lot of talent comes from the kids around here. Great Charter schools and private college prep HH education. I even saw a tiny gallery shack(had to be only 500 sq feet) near the old cemetary and the huge goth church near Paseo recently. Ya- so OKC is definitely liberal. Many walks of life can be found from the yuppy folks, Goth teens, black deep duece, little Saigon, Bohemian art people to the gay celebrations at the habana inn- the largest gay resort in america. They even have a big yearly event at a huge park. The last one had a 4 story blow-up condom that was from some sponser for safe sex. I was playing tennis at this park with my sister when the whole thing started to set up. lol
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08-08-2007, 11:11 PM
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Hello from the dusty panhandle!
Yes, I grew up in Guymon, which the local Guymon Daily Herald then called "The Queen City of the Panhandle Empire." It's quite conservative, but you won't find people anywhere who possess a more robust civic camaraderie and bootstrap independence. The place fairly glows with humanity and goodwill. I've lived all over the country since I left, and currently rent a beach apartment alongside the San Francisco bay. I was very liberal when I left the university at Norman, liberal when walked San Francisco precincts for Dukakis, and liberal when I helped turn out the vote for Bill Clinton. But, having watched the socialists run up California taxes, squander funds for everything except infrastructure, drive billions of dollars worth of business out of state, institute a permanent and growing structural budget deficit, and generally try to have the DMV (or similarly inept bureaucracy) run our lives from cradle to grave, I'm hoping to find some good old conversative, right-wing, liberty-loving troglodytes when I return to Oklahoma and buy myself a $100,000 home that would cost the better part of a million hereabouts. Count your blessings.
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08-09-2007, 12:09 AM
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Your story sounds very familiar. Just not sure what's happening to some parts of our country.  Welcome to the forum. 
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08-09-2007, 06:01 AM
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I may be liberal in politics, but I really don't know. I don't really talk about religion or politics with others as I don't wish to get into an argument. So it doesn't matter to me that the Oklahomans are conservative or that many may be fundamentalists. I think what saves me here is that I go to the Unitarian Church where there are more liberals and some atheists, agnostics, etc. They accept whatever you want to believe as long as you don't hurt anyone. Also, they are not well liked by the Christian community, and very few places in Oklahoma have Unitarians, or so I am told.
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This was a post I made back in March. The Unitarian Church didn't "save me" here after all. I found talking about politics to be boring to me, as was intellectualizing, and dealing with those that only wanted liberals and democrats in a certain group that met there, and this bothered me. I talked to the minister, who is a wonderful lady, and she was shocked that some were doing this. But I left anyway. Why? Boredom. But I knew that I would leave if I ever found a group here that I liked and didn't fear due to their religion. From reading this board and from dealing with a few Unitarians, I was taught that you couldn't make it out there if you were a fundamentalist. Not true. I have finally made friends here. I was told by these friends that people do not ask you what religion you are in. Finally, I am finding that I fit in here very well. I joined the Red Hat Society, which is a lot of fun. And I joined the Friends of the Library, and boy do we need new members. And I go to the Garden Club, another fun and very helpful group especially when you don't know what you are doing in your own garden. One Garden Club woman gave me a truck load of plants, but then the rains killed about 1/3 or them. Anyway, forget about any area being conservative. If you are really liberal and political there are Unitarian Churches in some towns, or you can join groups and eventually seek out those that are more liberal. As for me I don't care what one's religion or politics are as long as they accept me for who I am too and don't try to push their religion or politics down my throat.
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