[Bass&Catfish2008]

Originally Posted by Mattie Jo

oh, so you were in a bad section of town. most of it isn't like that, but there are areas.

what i meant by broken windows is that muskogee downtown has a lot of empty bldgs. with broken windows, which is something i have not seen in tahlequah.

oklahoma is a very poor state, and so i am sure that muskogee can't afford to fix up their downtown. few towns here can, and wallie world takes over, people lose their businesses. i saw a lot of boarded up small towns in texas. we were wanting to check out the small towns and were always disappointed.

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few towns here can, and wallie world takes over, people lose their businesses.
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You hit the nail on the head, Friend. Small towns should fight Wally-World tooth-n-nail before letting come in.

[Mattie Jo]

There are few towns in this world that don't have some trashy homes. and no one wants the city to come and tell them what to do. i like that no one goes around telling people that they have to mow their yard for example. i have been in very few small towns where i saw no trash, where everything is perfect. one such place, and i could be wrong is, St. George, Utah. we drove around because we were thinking of moving there. everyone that day was out taking care of their property, but who knows? another small town that was picture perfect was a very small town in northern california. i was looking for a place to live. but i don't see what you see seabeebolt because i don't drive in that area of town. i think there is some of it down our street but i don't recall, mostly see garbage cans and garbage that animals have attacked. then i know that there are trashy areas around the river because people don't keep their yards up, also down the highway going towards arkansas. but i quit looking for the perfect town, and when you find them they have a lot of rules and are expensive to live in. some of my favorite towns are touristy, julian, ca, eureka springs, ark. but then you have tourists all over. i don't like tourist towns except to visit. we get enough tourists here during the cherokee days.

[LadyRobyn]

If anyone would like to share info about Tahlequa please do so.

For those that wish to discuss politics and racism... go here: http://www.city-data.com/forum/oklah...in-thread.html

[D-Towner]

Does the College provide much action in terms of Bars and Coffeehouses?

[StillwaterTownie]

I doubt that bars will ever be a really big thing in college towns until the minimum drinking age drops back to 18. But then the bars might get to be too much of a thing.

[_redbird_]

Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie

I doubt that bars will ever be a really big thing in college towns until the minimum drinking age drops back to 18. But then the bars might get to be too much of a thing.

What?! LOL. I majored in partyology at both Jr. college and K-State. At one point in time, it was said Manhattan, KS had more bars in one square mile than any other town in the U.S. I can't believe you said that. WOW. That is mind-boggling.

Ahh, those were the ~hic~ days.

[jjwebbster]

Originally Posted by LadyRobyn

If anyone would like to share info about Tahlequa please do so.

For those that wish to discuss politics and racism... go here: http://www.city-data.com/forum/oklah...in-thread.html

Well, the last time I saw it, it was just a sleepy little town with a lot of friendly people. Quite good deer hunting, same with fishing.

[bjb123]

A little bit of downtown & an interesting castle- style home that's for sale. (Just think what fun you could have at Halloween time!)

[EarthBound?]

Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie

I doubt that bars will ever be a really big thing in college towns until the minimum drinking age drops back to 18. But then the bars might get to be too much of a thing.

You know, come to think of it, I don't remember seeing ant bars. Or, maybe I just wasn't looking for any.

[mkfarnam]

Was "Prohabition" ever lifted in Oklahoma?
During my younger days, I use to enjoy going to the country Bars in SoCal. But they started to disappear out there too.
One was "The Branding Iron" in SanBernardino, Ca.

There was also "The High Chaparrell" in Riverside, Ca. I saw "The Oakridge Boys" perform there in the "80"s'.