[Bass&Catfish2008]

Also, I agree with the above posters: Hasn't there been enough poll taking? Sheesh......as if the jury is out on Oklahoma and our Identity.

Wikipedia does a decent job of identifying Okies culturally/geographically in a subregion of the South called the West South Central: File:Census Regions and Divisions.PNG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also, look at our state meal. Doesn't get much more Southern than this: okra, squash, cornbread, barbecue pork, biscuits, sausage and gravy, grits, corn, strawberries, chicken fried steak, pecan pie, and black-eyed peas.

Having said that, however, again....don't label us. Okies are quintessentially non-conformist by nature.

[Trimac20]

Originally Posted by LadyRobyn

Hey Trimac! We have friends in the Gold Coast region as well as Victoria. Does the Australian accent vary from that part of Aus to yours?? We've talked to our friends on the phone and I THOUGHT I heard a subtle difference.

Some claim it does, and there are certain words and pronunciations local to a certain area: for instance the way you say 'castle', 'graph', 'plant', 'beer' as well as certain local words.

But I think the difference is more among socio-economic class, and to a lesser extent gender. Working class people will have the 'broad' accent, most middle class Australians a 'general' accent, and some richer people a 'cultivated' accent. Let me know if you want to know more!

[Secret Samadhi]

I voted neither/both because, honestly, I don't know lol. I've really never had an opinion on this.

Originally Posted by Bass&Catfish2008

Also, look at our state meal. Doesn't get much more Southern than this: okra, squash, cornbread, barbecue pork, biscuits, sausage and gravy, grits, corn, strawberries, chicken fried steak, pecan pie, and black-eyed peas.

Oh my, I do love okra. You just made me so hungry!

[Bass&Catfish2008]

Originally Posted by Secret Samadhi

I voted neither/both because, honestly, I don't know lol. I've really never had an opinion on this.




Oh my, I do love okra. You just made me so hungry!

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Oh my, I do love okra. You just made me so hungry!
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Amen to that, Brother! Okra is really the finest veggie on God's green earth. I love the stuff; my wife will fry it and I'll put some Tony Chacheres on it and eat it like popcorn, LOL.

[_redbird_]

G'day, mate. I voted screw the poll. No offense mate, but that horse has been beaten to death a thousand times over.

Native aboriginal here. Neither southern, definitely not midwestern, and as far from Texan/Kansas as one could possibly get. That is why the tourist books try to use the catch phrase, Native Oklahoman. Even our Native tribes here in Oklahoma are from all over the map.

[Bass&Catfish2008]

Originally Posted by redbird4848

G'day, mate. I voted screw the poll. No offense mate, but that horse has been beaten to death a thousand times over.

Native aboriginal here. Neither southern, definitely not midwestern, and as far from Texan/Kansas as one could possibly get. That is why the tourist books try to use the catch phrase, Native Oklahoman. Even our Native tribes here in Oklahoma are from all over the map.

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Exactly my good Friend.

The only people I've ever heard call Oklahoma the "Midwest" was when I lived on the West Coast. Most Californians that I ran into referred to Oklahoma as the South....there were a few (2 if I remember correctly) that called it the Midwest....like nails on a chalkboard to my Okie years, LOL.

I lived in Massachusetts, and they definitely considered Oklahoma the South. They couldn't get over my Okie twang.

I've also spent some time in the "true" Midwest (Iowa) and they definitely considered Oklahoma the South as well.

Alright, enough ramblin'.....let's put this thread to rest for good.

[okie1962]

I am from Eastern Oklahoma, and it is a lot like the South. I would say I am more of a Southern.

[nevergoingback]

Originally Posted by Trimac20

Do you identify yourself as Southern or Midwestern, or neither a mix of the two?

How would you describe your accent?

Where in the state are you from?

I think "Native America" fits.

Although I don't prefer labels, thank you very much.

[okcpulse]

Southeastern Oklahoma is very southern. Southern to Southwestern Oklahoma has Texan influence. Western Oklahoma is very western. The panhandle is associated with New Mexico and Colorado. Northern Oklahoma to Northeastern Oklahoma is very Midwestern. Tulsa has a northeastern flavor, as if it were transported straight from the likes of Pennsylvania. Oklahoma City has a lot of western influence with many California and Texas expats.

[Bass&Catfish2008]

Originally Posted by okcpulse

Southeastern Oklahoma is very southern. Southern to Southwestern Oklahoma has Texan influence. Western Oklahoma is very western. The panhandle is associated with New Mexico and Colorado. Northern Oklahoma to Northeastern Oklahoma is very Midwestern. Tulsa has a northeastern flavor, as if it were transported straight from the likes of Pennsylvania. Oklahoma City has a lot of western influence with many California and Texas expats.

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Northern Oklahoma to Northeastern Oklahoma is very Midwestern. Tulsa has a northeastern flavor, as if it were transported straight from the likes of Pennsylvania.
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Wow. This has not been my experience at all and I'm a 4th generation Okie....."very Midwestern" seems to be a major stretch. If something between Indiana and Michigan would be quintessential "Midwestern" I do not see how the rural culture of even extreme northern Oklahoma could qualify as anything close to Midwestern.

Also, "Tulsa has a northeastern flavor, as if it were transported straight from the likes of Pennsylvania"...... When I lived in Boston I had many friends from Pennsylvania....I can honestly say they were nothing like Okies. Your understanding of Tulsa is vastly divergent from my own. I have family in Tulsa and the surrounding areas of Tulsa and culturally they are Southern (speech patterns, food choices, religion, music, etc.) I would call Tulsa a watered-down Southern culture (similar to Fayetteville or Fort Worth) in comparison to the Deep South.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you but I find your observations interesting if not puzzling because they are so different from my own observations/experience.

Question for you Pulse: Were you born and raised in Oklahoma and how long has your family been in Oklahoma? If not, where are you and your family/relatives/extended family originally from? Just curious. Thanks.