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Old 07-12-2009, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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There are plenty of Californians here already because I see them driving on the freeways the same way they did in California. That's not going to git'r done here. Besides, troopers and other badges will still pull you over here.
It takes awhile for some out of staters,,to be specific, those from Californy. to realize that they're no longer living in the fast lane. I took me alittle while.


I wonder if the Beverly Hillbillies took ROUTE 66?.
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Old 07-14-2009, 08:10 PM
 
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Let what happened to the American Indians serve as a warning for the USA to remain strong.

Besides: there was plenty of Indian on Indian violence prior to 1492---------so it was not just a 'White' thing.
that is nothing to what we endured from the europeans. so dont even go there
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Old 07-15-2009, 10:30 AM
 
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Let what happened to the American Indians serve as a warning for the USA to remain strong.

Besides: there was plenty of Indian on Indian violence prior to 1492---------so it was not just a 'White' thing.
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff275/redbird4848/illegal-immigrant-control.jpg (broken link)

If the illegals brought diseases for whch the "whites" had no immunity, then you might have some comparison.

I don't think anyone said or implied it was a "white thing" or any other kind of race thing. Because the truth is, every race on every continent has some form of warfare.

The move to California was not restricted to the Dust Bowl, a great many moved for jobs around WWII. Just as small towns continue to dwindle, people still relocate for a variety of reasons.

So, by all means, remain strong.
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Old 07-19-2009, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Norman
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It takes awhile for some out of staters,,to be specific, those from Californy. to realize that they're no longer living in the fast lane. I took me alittle while.


I wonder if the Beverly Hillbillies took ROUTE 66?.
You're right MK, just takes a bit to sink in.
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Old 07-19-2009, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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If the illegals brought diseases for whch the "whites" had no immunity, then you might have some comparison.

I don't think anyone said or implied it was a "white thing" or any other kind of race thing. Because the truth is, every race on every continent has some form of warfare.

The move to California was not restricted to the Dust Bowl, a great many moved for jobs around WWII. Just as small towns continue to dwindle, people still relocate for a variety of reasons.

So, by all means, remain strong.
Actually they did. There was a strain of Syphllis from the Caribs that killed thousands in Spain and Italy in the 1500s. Nothing as bad as Smallpox but it did go both ways
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Old 07-19-2009, 01:35 PM
 
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Except that I don't think the Indians got smallpox from raping the European explorers. Somehow I doubt that the sexual contact with Indians was 100% consensual.
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Old 07-19-2009, 01:38 PM
 
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Actually they did. There was a strain of Syphllis from the Caribs that killed thousands in Spain and Italy in the 1500s. Nothing as bad as Smallpox but it did go both ways
But it was the Europeans who went there, not the other way around. If I remember my history right, the Mandans were entirely wiped out by measles, which was one of those pesky little diseases brought by the Europeans.
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Old 07-19-2009, 02:52 PM
 
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But it was the Europeans who went there, not the other way around. If I remember my history right, the Mandans were entirely wiped out by measles, which was one of those pesky little diseases brought by the Europeans.
You act as if the europeans brought those diseases intentionally. They had no idea they were bringing them.
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Old 07-19-2009, 03:10 PM
 
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Actually they did. There was a strain of Syphllis from the Caribs that killed thousands in Spain and Italy in the 1500s. Nothing as bad as Smallpox but it did go both ways
No comparison. When you document going from 30,000 to 3,000 let us know.

Initially the diseases were not spread intentionally, but I read somewhere it was spread intentionally via blankets.

Anyway, this thread is not on indigenous/white history. Let's stay on topic.
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Old 07-19-2009, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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At one time, everyone thaught Polio was contagious........although it wasn't.
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