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Old 07-22-2010, 10:41 AM
 
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Enough with the NCAA/CWS/Blatt business. The absolute bottom line is that despite all the pretty posturing in the press to protect any sliver of reputation that the NCAA has, the College World Series would have been gone unless a new stadium was built to the NCAA's criteria. The only decision there was to make, was to built it and get a 50 year commitment or say goodbye.

So, the only real argument is financial/sentimental/city marketing value of the CWS to the citizens and taxpayers of Omaha. Let's not get sidetracked with meaningless subplots.
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Old 07-22-2010, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Omaha Nebraska and dreamland when I am sleeping
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altajoe is right. we shouldnt bring up Mike fahey 's legacy remembering idea (downtown stadium) anymore.
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Old 07-22-2010, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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he might


Omahans Against Suttle's Entertainment Tax | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=255001820234 - broken link)

and:

Movement to Impeach Omaha Mayor Jim Suttle | Facebook

are 2 anti-suttle groups on facebook
Not even 300 members between them. Even if everyone of them and Tom Becka's 4,050 fans signed he would still be a long ways off, especially when you consider a sizable amount of Becka's fan base is outside the city limits and are ineligible to sign.
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Old 07-22-2010, 03:38 PM
 
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And yet almost every city in the nation has had a substantial tax increase.

Somehow we are suppose to be the only city in the US that is immune to all ills, if we are not then let's blame the current mayor.

MY OPINION: With the exception of a few of you (Bosco and altajoe etc), I'd really hate to continue living my life if my thought processes were that terribly depressing.. Good grief..
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Old 07-22-2010, 03:42 PM
 
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Accept the things that cannot be changed. The stadium is going up. Move on to more elevating topics.
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:13 AM
 
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altajoe is right. we shouldnt bring up Mike fahey 's legacy remembering idea (downtown stadium) anymore.

Good to see that your sarcasm button disables your reasonable thought process button.

I'll try to say to slower and try to keep it shorter for you:

T H E...N C A A...R E Q U I R E D...T H E...D O W N T O W N...S T A D I U M...O R...T H E...C W S...W O U L D...L E A V E...O M A H A.

Now enough of my sarcasm; A valid argument would be if Omaha should have said "see ya..it's been fun". Of course as other have pointed out, that ship has sailed, so its a fools game to beat that dead horse.

Ironically, as much as I dislike Fahey for downsizing the Qwest, and then having to spend exponentially more to expand it and choosing a smaller Hilton, rather than a larger, more upscale Marriot and then having to expand it (see the pattern) just because they were championed by Daub, the downtown stadium has ZERO to do with his ego.
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:52 AM
 
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And yet almost every city in the nation has had a substantial tax increase.

Somehow we are suppose to be the only city in the US that is immune to all ills, if we are not then let's blame the current mayor.

MY OPINION: With the exception of a few of you (Bosco and altajoe etc), I'd really hate to continue living my life if my thought processes were that terribly depressing.. Good grief..

Almost every city in America has had major spending cuts, too. But not us...we're spending $1 million to see if a streetcar system would be a good thing.
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Old 07-23-2010, 11:06 AM
 
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What I have read about was that Fahey's name is on a nearby street. What I haven't read about was matching funds from the NCAA to help us out. I'm not entirely sure that the "real" revenue and business gained during those 3 weeks justify us taking on this particular project, and everything built starting with the Qwest Center seems to have been the wrong size, either too big (stadium) or too small (qwest and hotel). Then again, perhaps the neighborhood will benefit from an expansion of Henry Doorly and not having to deal with the nightmare traffic scenarios associated with the CWS. It's hard to say without all of the information the city has, and of course we aren't told most of it.
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Old 07-23-2010, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Omaha Nebraska and dreamland when I am sleeping
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Almost every city in America has had major spending cuts, too. But not us...we're spending $1 million to see if a streetcar system would be a good thing.
youre so right.

but to Fahey/Suttle apologists, the streetcar system will bring in a million t0 150 million dollars the first year

(after all, isnt that the lie we were told about the downtown stadium)
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Old 07-23-2010, 11:58 AM
 
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youre so right.

but to Fahey/Suttle apologists, the streetcar system will bring in a million t0 150 million dollars the first year

(after all, isnt that the lie we were told about the downtown stadium)
It could also cause traffic delays and other problems. If they're going to do it, they need to do it right and build a light rail that does not run on city streets. This streetcar thing is idiotic.
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