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Old 10-20-2010, 09:36 AM
 
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Call bull**** all you want.

Im not saying I would base my business prospects soley on what a few people on some message board says.....of course Ive looked at figures that directly impact my business.

That being said, my specific trucking business (moving and storage) is directly connected to population growth, economic stability, housing growth (or in this time recovery), median family incom and many other related factors.

I havent made any decisions yet and Im considering several cities at this point. I have to narrow it down to 3-4 final locations before I actually start traveling and scouting areas.....otherwise Id spends thousands just to scout locations.

With all that being said, the biggest issue is my wife. I dont know if you guys follow the tenent of "happy wife, happy life" but Ive fought that battle before and I know how it ends.


If my wife percieves that a city is beat up and unsafe, if she feels uncomfortable.....all bets are off.


Im just trying to save some money and legwork and do some research before I start traveling.

The only times i've ever felt unsafe in my life was when I was living in North Omaha, but if you avoid the areas that someone listed on that google map, its pretty accurate. I also lived at 72nd and dodge area and LOVED the area.

Now, i'm in Tampa FL and I really really miss Omaha and cant wait til I go back. Infact, i'm 26 weeks pregnant and flying back in a few weeks back to Omaha. I'm insanely excited to be back to SEASONS!


It also helps to know - what kind of things does your wife like to do? Does she like to do high end shopping? That's not really in Omaha. Does your wife like to knit or do crafts? Lots of groups for that here where she can make some really good friends.
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Old 10-20-2010, 12:48 PM
 
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http://www.census.gov/compendia/stat...es/10s0298.pdf

Statistics should always be considered in a conversation! Just remember that every crowd has those people that are never happy and just complain because that is all they can do with themeselves.

Believe me, Omaha's crime rate is much better than average for large cities.

[SIZE=1][SIZE=1][LEFT]Table 298. [/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=1][SIZE=1]Crime Rates by Type—Selected Large Cities: 2007[/LEFT]
[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=1][SIZE=1][LEFT][[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=1][SIZE=1]Offenses known to law enforcement per 100,000 population. [/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=1][SIZE=1]Based on U.S. Census Bureau estimated resident population.
For definitions of types of crimes, go to <http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/about/offense_definitions.htm/>
City ranked by
population size, [/SIZE]
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[SIZE=1][SIZE=1]2007 [/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=1][SIZE=1]1[/LEFT]
[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=1][SIZE=1][LEFT]Violent crime Property crime
Total Murder
Forcible
rape Robbery
Aggravated
assault Total Burglary
Larcenytheft
Motor
vehicle
theft
New York, NY . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 614 6.0 10.6 265 332 1,819 254 1,403 161
Los Angeles, CA. . . . . . . . . . . . . 718 10.2 25.9 348 334 2,621 507 1,506 608
Chicago, IL . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ([/SIZE]
[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=1]2[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=1][SIZE=1]) 15.7 ([/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=1][SIZE=1]2[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=1][SIZE=1]) 546 617 4,472 876 2,937 659
Houston, TX . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,132 16.2 32.0 529 555 5,684 1,339 3,449 897
Phoenix, AZ. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 724 13.8 33.0 321 356 5,826 1,246 3,227 1,353
Philadelphia, PA . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,475 27.3 66.6 715 667 4,305 803 2,728 774
Las Vegas MPD, NV . . . . . . . . . . 1,017 8.9 53.9 392 563 4,392 1,141 2,025 1,226
San Antonio, TX . . . . . . . . . . . . . 556 9.3 48.2 186 313 6,390 1,272 4,607 511
San Diego, CA. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 502 4.7 23.5 166 308 3,502 609 1,845 1,049
Dallas, TX . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,069 16.1 41.2 583 429 6,776 1,814 3,849 1,113
San Jose, CA. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 402 3.5 23.2 114 261 2,575 476 1,412 686
Honolulu, HI. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 288 2.1 24.9 104 157 4,106 638 2,923 545
Detroit, MI . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,289 45.8 39.6 764 1,440 6,772 2,064 2,430 2,278
Jacksonville, FL . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,022 15.4 31.2 391 584 5,696 1,394 3,698 604
Indianapolis, IN . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,234 14.3 63.3 507 649 6,308 1,679 3,666 963
Columbus, OH . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 852 10.7 89.8 523 228 6,996 1,952 4,198 846
San Francisco, CA . . . . . . . . . . . 874 13.6 17.0 514 330 4,696 692 3,199 804
Charlotte-Mecklenburg PD, NC . . . 986 10.4 38.5 435 502 6,993 1,766 4,407 821
Austin, TX . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 540 4.2 45.8 203 287 6,341 1,120 4,808 413
Fort Worth, TX . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 667 8.6 49.9 242 367 5,469 1,343 3,726 400
Memphis, TN . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,951 19.1 67.5 728 1,136 8,062 2,183 4,953 926
Baltimore, MD . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,631 45.2 23.4 624 939 4,796 1,182 2,682 932
Louisville Metro, KY . . . . . . . . . . 679 11.4 31.1 306 331 4,734 1,216 3,008 510
El Paso, TX . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 418 2.8 41.9 77 297 3,201 349 2,361 492
Boston, MA . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,155 11.0 44.4 379 721 4,153 644 2,932 578
Washington, DC . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,347 30.8 32.6 677 606 4,712 666 2,801 1,245
Seattle, WA . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 627 4.1 15.4 260 347 5,804 1,023 3,793 988
Denver, CO . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 619 8.2 51.6 182 377 3,908 993 2,022 893
Milwaukee, WI . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,403 18.3 41.2 616 728 6,667 1,083 4,232 1,352
Nashville, TN . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,509 12.9 51.4 446 999 5,577 1,083 4,029 465
Oklahoma City, OK . . . . . . . . . . . 851 10.7 60.1 258 522 5,892 1,496 3,546 850
Portland, OR . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 688 4.1 52.0 240 392 5,870 899 4,084 886
Tucson, AZ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 784 9.4 52.9 274 448 ([/SIZE]
[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=1]3[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=1][SIZE=1]) 915 ([/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=1][SIZE=1]3[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=1][SIZE=1]) 1,293
Albuquerque, NM . . . . . . . . . . . . 990 9.2 59.8 280 641 5,709 1,096 3,631 982
Atlanta, GA . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,624 25.9 29.8 719 849 7,286 1,781 4,093 1,412
Long Beach, CA. . . . . . . . . . . . . 723 8.9 29.1 318 367 2,738 613 1,522 603
Fresno, CA . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 644 11.0 21.0 234 379 4,441 825 2,764 852
Sacramento, CA. . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,113 9.6 42.1 436 626 5,298 1,177 2,802 1,319
Mesa, AZ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 489 4.8 38.5 136 310 4,388 643 3,094 651
Cleveland, OH . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,465 20.5 85.0 914 445 6,142 2,057 2,542 1,542
Virginia Beach, VA . . . . . . . . . . . 250 3.7 20.2 127 99 2,989 495 2,359 134
Omaha, NE . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 597 9.7 43.8 189 354 4,784 775 3,213 796
Miami, FL . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,492 19.0 13.9 618 840 5,163 1,177 3,042 945
Oakland, CA . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,918 30.3 75.4 875 937 5,968 1,196 2,258 2,514
Tulsa, OK . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,193 14.4 78.4 268 832 6,303 1,794 3,545 964
Colorado Springs, CO . . . . . . . . . 531 7.2 76.2 141 306 4,425 850 3,178 397
Arlington, TX . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 696 3.5 41.9 199 451 5,665 1,195 4,029 441
Minneapolis, MN. . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,503 12.7 121.8 679 690 6,072 1,660 3,556 856
Raleigh, NC. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 571 6.3 27.0 227 311 3,476 803 2,390 283
Wichita, KS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 945 11.4 75.1 155 703 5,793 1,216 3,981 596
St. Louis, MO. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,198 39.6 73.2 793 1,292 9,736 2,093 5,839 1,804
Santa Ana, CA . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 572 6.8 19.1 229 317 2,292 298 1,377 617
Tampa, FL. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,060 8.3 23.7 357 671 4,974 1,252 3,081 642
Anaheim, CA . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 425 5.1 28.6 173 218 2,625 545 1,699 381
Cincinnati, OH . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,079 19.0 94.2 590 376 6,177 1,865 3,710 601
Bakersfield, CA . . . . . . . . . . . . . 615 4.7 12.9 197 400 5,038 1,110 3,091 837
Pittsburgh, PA . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,107 16.7 41.3 511 538 4,463 1,095 2,876 493
Aurora, CO . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 548 4.6 62.1 190 292 3,833 754 2,519 559
Riverside, CA. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 632 4.0 30.4 229 369 3,727 744 2,366 617
Stockton, CA . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,419 9.8 35.3 543 830 6,285 1,364 3,965 956
Toledo, OH . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,228 4.4 50.9 413 759 6,689 1,998 4,058 633
Corpus Christi, TX . . . . . . . . . . . 826 5.9 83.1 174 564 6,540 1,189 5,063 288
Anchorage, AK. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 846 7.7 90.4 159 589 3,909 512 2,955 442
Newark, NJ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 853 37.1 21.4 393 401 3,806 683 1,565 1,558
Buffalo, NY . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,275 19.7 59.9 560 635 5,893 1,603 3,461 829
Lexington, KY . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 656 5.9 40.7 202 408 3,427 775 2,428 224
St. Paul, MN . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 857 5.2 63.7 286 502 4,093 992 2,336 764
Plano, TX . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 260 0.8 19.6 62 178 3,069 533 2,374 162
Mobile, AL [/SIZE]
[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=1]4[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=1][SIZE=1]. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 451 15.0 9.1 295 131 5,569 1,438 3,688 443
New Orleans, LA . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,564 94.7 52.1 523 894 7,063 2,284 3,333 1,446[/LEFT]
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[SIZE=1][SIZE=1][LEFT]1 [/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=1][SIZE=1]Kansas City, Missouri did not report twelve months of data. Conquently, the data are not included in this table. [/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=1][SIZE=1]2 [/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=1][SIZE=1]The data
collection methodology for the offense of forcible rape used by the Illinois and Minnesota state programs (with the exception of
Rockford, Illinois, and Minneapolis and St Paul, Minnesota) does not comply with national UCR Program guidelines. Consequently,
their figures for forcible rape and violent crime (of which forcible rape is a part) are not published in this table. [/SIZE]
[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=1]3 [/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=1][SIZE=1]It was determined
that the agency did not follow national Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program guidelines for reporting an offense. Consequently,
this figure is not included in this table. [/SIZE]
[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=1]4 [/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=1][SIZE=1]The population for the city of Mobile, Alabama, includes 61,856 inhabitants from the
jurisdiction of the Mobile County Sheriff’s Department.
Source: U.S. Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Investigation, ‘‘Crime in the United States’’; <http://www.fbi.gov/ucr (broken link)[/LEFT]
/cius2007/data/table08.html/>.
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Old 10-20-2010, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Florida/Nebraska
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http://www.census.gov/compendia/stat...es/10s0298.pdf

Statistics should always be considered in a conversation! Just remember that every crowd has those people that are never happy and just complain because that is all they can do with themeselves.

Believe me, Omaha's crime rate is much better than average for large cities.
Which numbers represents what line, on which crime statistic? Forgot to add these are OLD numbers from 2007.
I think a simple link to the PDF file that you provided would have done the trick.

Anyone that was to read a forum of any kind to get information on if they should move there, or transfer a business there would do more research. Not just ask questions online, take some time off and see for yourself. Omaha has many trucking/storage firms like the one you would like to start. You can find that information out in may ways, call United, Atlas, Mayflower, etc. Following crime statistics in any city will get you an idea, but not the facts. Read local papers, call local law enforcement offices. If you follow your wife's advice of being "no" too bad of a city by judgment of a forum, you might as well just open an atlas & close your eyes - where your finger lands that's a choice to be.

If you think crime is bad there, read some newspapers out of Florida. Ft. Lauderdale, Tampa, Orlando, Jacksonville, Miami, just click the sub cities here on citi-data for Florida. Omaha has changed a lot in past years, mostly for the good, but crime is everywhere, no matter how big/small the city/town is.

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Old 10-20-2010, 08:59 PM
 
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Ok, let me say this now, nearly half the people on this forum are mental. Most of the city is safe, there have been 24 homicides this year, last year was 30.
2010 Omaha homicides - Google Maps
Our downtown and midtown areas are thriving in a Renaissance, and if you take a look at the map, no murders have occurred there this year. Politically, I will admit things are crazy right now because our city, like all of the other cities in the country, overspent. Economically, 5 percent unemployment rate, a large wealthy population, housing wise we really didn't get hit to badly, I think for us the recession is more or less over and things are recovering quickly. I believe Forbes said we will be the city that will recover the fastest. And as for cigarette smoke pollution, that may be the stupidest thing I've ever heard, not too many people smoke here, and even then, you would need at least 200,000 people smoking 24/7 for there to be actual pollution problems. Continuing on, most of the city is extremely nice and there aren't many run down areas at all, our streets are extremely easy to navigate with a grid system (streets going north to south are numbered with every 12 numbers being a mile, streets that run east to west are named, which starting in the south are Giles, Harrison, Q, Center, Pacific, Dodge, Blondo, Maple, Fort, Military.) In fact, if you're interested, direct message me and I'll give you numerous pictures and articles about the city.

Oh, and one more thing, if you look at how all the homicides in the link I provided happened, particularly when they happen, you'll notice a lot have something in common.
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Old 10-20-2010, 09:11 PM
 
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If you think crime is bad there, read some newspapers out of Florida. Ft. Lauderdale, Tampa, Orlando, Jacksonville, Miami, just click the sub cities here on citi-data for Florida. Omaha has changed a lot in past years, mostly for the good, but crime is everywhere, no matter how big/small the city/town is.
Yup, I'll agree with this statement. Just moved to Tampa from Omaha (military reasons), and its incredibly scary here from what i'm used to in Omaha.
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:40 AM
 
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That being said, my specific trucking business (moving and storage) is directly connected to population growth, economic stability, housing growth (or in this time recovery), median family incom and many other related factors.
Then Omaha is your clear choice. Omaha has had strong growth for 30 years. The economy here is also rock solid. Unlike some other cities Omaha has a diverse mix that prevents the city from talking a huge hit in hard times. Some here try to claim that bigger is not better, I beg to differ! When starting a company one wants to find a place with the most perspective customers. Now if Omahas trucking market is saturated then Lincoln may perhaps be the best choice, but I somehow doubt that.

Lastly 'Omaha is home to more millionaires per capita than any other US city.' That alone should say something.
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Middleburg
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Omaha is home to more millionaires per capita than any other US city.' That alone should say something.
IF that is true (please provide link), it is probably because initial investors of Berkshire Hathaway live in Omaha. It is not because of some superior capitalistic aura over the city, as you insinuate.
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:48 PM
 
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Mutual returns to Fortune 500 - Omaha.com


It's not just Berkshire. Omaha is home to 5 Fortune 500 Companies.
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Old 10-22-2010, 05:57 PM
 
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IF that is true (please provide link), it is probably because initial investors of Berkshire Hathaway live in Omaha. It is not because of some superior capitalistic aura over the city, as you insinuate.
This site here (but also mentioned all over the net)
Omaha Homes guide

I assume they are talking about large (250k people) cities, as I am sure some little town of 2-3 people is 100% millionaires.
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Old 10-25-2010, 09:45 AM
 
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Some parts of north Omaha should be avoided, but many parts are rather nice. Also south Omaha has a moderate to low crime rate. I have lived there all my life and have never felt unsafe. My neighborhood has a safety rating of 47 out of 100 and the next block north is ranked 59! Sure west Omaha is safer, but it is farther away from the core of the city and it's many services. Lastly the same site lists many places in Lincoln as unsafe (less than 10 / 100), just as omaha.
What website is that? I would love to look at it.
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