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07-23-2007, 09:15 PM
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Yeah other breeds bite people too!!! But the difference is that you had go all the way back to 2005 to find them! All those pitbull attacks that I posted happened within the LAST MONTH. -- and every month about two pages of hits with fresh attacks by pitbulls come into the queue.
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Great, Jesse, you've made your point......can we just friggin' move on??? And you are absolutely correct. ONLY APBT have bitten since 2005. Every damned dog bite in the past 2 years has been from pit bulls. Amazing how the facts can be twisted, isn't it?
We're now all quaking in our boots. I'm afraid to go to sleep now because I have 6 Rottweilers. God only knows what will happen to me during the night.
Why don't you hook up with PETA or something? This obviously is not a good group to try to preach to.
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07-23-2007, 10:12 PM
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I wonder, if Jesse_James, had a bad personal experience? Maybe he was never allowed to have a dog growing up, or maybe he always wanted a pit-bull but was allergic to red-noses and wagging tails. Generally, when someone is this passionate about reinforcing a stereotype...there's something deeper behind the issue.
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07-23-2007, 10:15 PM
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I never said that Pitbulls were the ONLY breed that has bitten in the last two years -- I was merely pointing out that the examples given were TWO YEARS OLD. That took a lot more digging than just popping "Pitbull attack" into google and getting pages of hits.
Pitbulls and Rots are the two breeds that cause the most fatalities. I believe the number is at about 60%. That is 60% of all dog related fatalities are caused by those two breeds/breed mixes. If you contrast that number against the percentage of the dog population that those breeds occupy, then the data is quite telling. Rotweillers caused more deaths than Pitbulls -- but there are more rots than pits out there. So what this really tells -- is that Pitbulls - have a higher likelyhood to kill humans than any other dog breed based on the pitbull population (as a percentage of the entire dog population) contrasted against the startling percentage by breed of dog attack fatalities that are attributable to pitbulls. 
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07-23-2007, 10:23 PM
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Speculate about me all you want. I really don't care what you think about me. I'm sure Thunder and Lightnings owner (and all the other recipients of rude awakenings via pitbull attack frenzies) would have been chiming in with you prior to their attack. And perhaps some would still be typing (with finger depleted hands) after being mauled by their loving pets -(a lot of pitbull owners aren't the brightest bulbs)
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I wonder, if Jesse_James, had a bad personal experience? Maybe he was never allowed to have a dog growing up, or maybe he always wanted a pit-bull but was allergic to red-noses and wagging tails. Generally, when someone is this passionate about reinforcing a stereotype...there's something deeper behind the issue.
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07-23-2007, 10:31 PM
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SAM I AM, if we don't hear from you tomorrow, just wanted to tell you that was nice to know you, because you're ROTTIES MAY KILL YOU!!!  OR MY GERMAN SHEPARD MAY BITE ME TO DEATH DURING THE NIGHT!!!  LOL.
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07-23-2007, 10:41 PM
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SAM I AM, if we don't hear from you tomorrow, just wanted to tell you that was nice to know you, because you're ROTTIES MAY KILL YOU!!!  OR MY GERMAN SHEPARD MAY BITE ME TO DEATH DURING THE NIGHT!!!  LOL.
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Hey - I get up at 2:30-3:00 a.m. to start working....so I'm usually in bed by 7:30 or 8:00 in the evening - I am on guard tonite, though, as you can see by my time stamp. I am sure my dogs are in attack mode - them laying on their cushions in the bedroom or the two in the bed with us at night with four paws in the air and their tongues hanging out - that is a disguise known only to the Rottweiler breed. Others may imitate, but they are in stealth mode.
May the force be with me. Now I lay me down to sleep.....
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07-23-2007, 11:02 PM
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I never said that Pitbulls were the ONLY breed that has bitten in the last two years -- I was merely pointing out that the examples given were TWO YEARS OLD. That took a lot more digging than just popping "Pitbull attack" into google and getting pages of hits. 
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You're still going at it? All you've been pointing out are false statements.
It's getting old.***YAWN***
BTW...I've heard It's a health hazard to Google yourself....  ...LMAO
Feathers don't ruffle on me very easily...and I think the rest of the group feels the same.
I agree...you need to move on...
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07-24-2007, 06:28 AM
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False Statements? Nah. All the attacks actually are happening. The only thing could be questioned is the Bull Terrier/Pit Bull question from the porcupine picture. Bull Terriers were bred into Pit Bull Terriers -so they are related. But in reference to ever-happinging maulings and disfigurments caused by Pitbulls -- I'm not making them up. I guess the truth hurts huh?
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You're still going at it? All you've been pointing out are false statements.
It's getting old.***YAWN***
BTW...I've heard It's a health hazard to Google yourself....  ...LMAO
Feathers don't ruffle on me very easily...and I think the rest of the group feels the same.
I agree...you need to move on...
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07-24-2007, 07:16 AM
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False Statements? Nah. All the attacks actually are happening. The only thing could be questioned is the Bull Terrier/Pit Bull question from the porcupine picture. Bull Terriers were bred into Pit Bull Terriers -so they are related. But in reference to ever-happinging maulings and disfigurments caused by Pitbulls -- I'm not making them up. I guess the truth hurts huh?
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The truth may hurt, but you will never accept our truth, nor will we accept yours. Let it go, Jesse....let it go. T. D. Jakes, a minister, has a good article about letting go I'll be glad to send you.
What really hurts is hitting the same keystrokes over and over, trying to explain differences to a closed mind. You really need to move to Little Rock, Arkansas, where they are attempting to ban anything that even bears a strange resemblance to the APBT. Maybe you could be the "independent appraiser" they speak of...of course, the biting beagles of the world wouldn't stand a chance....if you squint real hard, I'm sure you could find something pit-like in their look....
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07-24-2007, 09:12 AM
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RIP, my beautiful baby Brooklyn! :(
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Originally Posted by jesse--james
Pitbulls and Rots are the two breeds that cause the most fatalities. I believe the number is at about 60%. That is 60% of all dog related fatalities are caused by those two breeds/breed mixes.
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You have no idea what you are talking about! lmfao!  "Pitbulls and Rots are the two breeds" Actually, "pit bulls" and Rottweilers would be four breeds, plus all of the mixes and the 25+ breeds that are commonly wrongly identified as "pit bulls".
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(a lot of pitbull owners aren't the brightest bulbs)
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Okay, I'll give you that one. That is true, a lot of people that own "pit bulls" as well as other so-called "dangerous" breeds are morons! They get these dogs just to make them mean, not take care of them and not keep them under control, but the majority of "pit bull" and other so-called "dangerous" breed owners are wonderful, responsible, respectful owners that own these breeds because they are educated on them (unlike yourself) and know what amazing breeds they are.
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Originally Posted by jesse--james
False Statements? Nah. All the attacks actually are happening. The only thing could be questioned is the Bull Terrier/Pit Bull question from the porcupine picture. Bull Terriers were bred into Pit Bull Terriers -so they are related. But in reference to ever-happinging maulings and disfigurments caused by Pitbulls -- I'm not making them up. I guess the truth hurts huh?
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Haha! You crack me up!  "False Statements? Nah. All the attacks actually are happening." lmao! As usual, you are wrong!  There are a few things that contribute to the negative stories on the news. As often the case, negative stories always seem to get National coverage, where the positive stories only make the local news. The Media is not always very responsible with their stories! I have seen news reports of a dog attack by another breed and, yet the media had a picture of a "pit bull" on the TV while reporting this story. I’ve read many stories where the reporter obviously hadn’t done any research, when I asked about their statistics they choose not to reply. Also, many dog bites are never reported. There is nothing in place to track dog bites in the US accurately. There are 25+ breeds that are commonly wrongly identified as "pit bulls", Those of us who have been involved with the breed for years have trouble identifying them 100% of the time, so, we certainly can’t expect inexperienced people to be able to properly ID a dog. That said, it leads us to believe that many of the bites that claim to be from "pit bulls" are in fact, inflicted by other breeds. People like yourself are the only reason you see all of these so-called "pit bull" attacks! People like you give the media a reason to twist crap around.. People like you are the ones that give them their ratings, website hits, etc whenever they report some false, over dramatic crap!
"The only thing could be questioned is the Bull Terrier/Pit Bull question from the porcupine picture. Bull Terriers were bred into Pit Bull Terriers -so they are related." Haha.. Well then you have to put Bulldogs in there and many different terriers! The Staffordshire Bull Terrier was bred in England from Bulldogs and various terriers to bull bait. American Staffordshire Terriers were bred from Staffordshire Bull Terriers in the US to be larger (but they are still a medium breed) so, obviously they weren't bred with Bull Terriers. If they were they would have gotten smaller instead of larger! lol! Then American Pit Bull Terriers were basically just a different strain of American Staffordshire Terriers and AmStaffs and APBTs were originally used for dog fighting in the US. None of these dogs were ever bred to be human aggressive. Staffies were bred to bull bait and AmStaffs and APBTs were bred from Staffies to dog fight. "-so they are related." Well, that might be so, but they are not closely related and they are no closer related to "pit bulls" than Bulldogs and other terriers. I'm not quite sure what point you were trying to make with that?!?! lmao! You were saying that Bull Terriers are grouped as "pit bulls".. they are not considered "pit bulls" and quite a few of us have told you that several times. So what if they are related?! lol! That's not what we were talking about and again, they are definitely not closely related at all and they are no closer to "pit bulls" than Bulldogs and various other terrier breeds are.
"But in reference to ever-happinging maulings and disfigurments caused by Pitbulls -- I'm not making them up. I guess the truth hurts huh?" Nope, that's not the truth so, it doesn't hurt.. lol! I wonder if ignorance does though??  No one ever said you were making them up, but the media is and that's the truth. MOST of those dogs are not "pit bulls" and many, many dog attacks are never reported so, all we hear about are so-called "pit bull" attacks! I have already said what I have to say about the media so, I'm not going to repeat it.
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