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Old 05-11-2011, 08:02 AM
 
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:26 AM
 
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Thing is, and I dont mean to have a go at you personally Calvinist, but I grew up in the Omaha that idealized the kind of solutions you are talking about.
Post 50s, Omaha bulldozed tons of great old downtown and put in parking lots. You had city leaders turning the town into a bedroom community and washing away every last bit of interesting character there was about the place.
And it suuuuucked. And Omaha suffered for it.
Tons of brain drain and kids waiting til graduation to get out.
And Omaha wasnt the only industrial city that suffered like that. But luckily Omaha was able to come back from the brink and reinvent itself and it is going (from my outside view) pretty spectacularly.
Omaha is reversing its losses, kids are staying in town, and kids are even HAPPILY MOVING THERE which would have been unheard of just a decade ago.

I moved away about 12 years ago. For the first five or six years out here, whenever I would tell someone I was from Omaha they would either not know where it was or if they did they assumed it was all one big farm.
In the last five or six years that has actually changed to enthusiasm over what they have heard about the place. Smart young people are migrating TO Omaha.
This is a good thing and I am amazed at the turnaround. And that turnaround is largely due to civic investments like the Qwest center, this ballpark, downtown rising back like a phoenix.

If the fools that hate going east of 72nd (or is it 84th these days?) dont want to be part of the resurgence then that is their problem.
Let them stay terrified and tiny-lifed on their side of the curtain. But theres no reason to cater to those bedroom community types, certainly not any more.

What Omaha has managed to pull out of its hat downtown is pretty amazing and often impossible to do even under ideal conditions.
We should celebrate that. Even if it means having to walk a couple more blocks to the car.
I honestly don't mind a built-up downtown. I don't understand the attraction of a million people in close proximity...but I don't mind it--if it's possible to get to an event without taking 3 hours to get in and out.

I like the model of St. Louis's train system. I think Washington DC has an excellent metro--as well as Chicago's. If we could have a good public transport system that didn't use the same crowded streets that people driving in will use I think it'd be a good thing.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:28 AM
 
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I was downtown last night from about 9:00 until 10:30. There was nothing out of the ordinary with the traffic at all. There were more people walking around Cumming Street and 10th street than normal. It gave the area a very active feel. I think that the College World Series is just going to be amazing down there. I don't get why so many people are freaking about parking and driving in this area.
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Old 05-11-2011, 09:57 AM
 
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I honestly don't mind a built-up downtown. I don't understand the attraction of a million people in close proximity...but I don't mind it--if it's possible to get to an event without taking 3 hours to get in and out.

I like the model of St. Louis's train system. I think Washington DC has an excellent metro--as well as Chicago's. If we could have a good public transport system that didn't use the same crowded streets that people driving in will use I think it'd be a good thing.
Well if Omaha had a trolley system or top rate bus system there would be less cars on the street and room for these surface mass transit solutions. Roads are used by more than the automobile you know.
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Old 05-11-2011, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Omaha Nebraska
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Last night was GREAT! There were no problems and everything went smooth!

WOWT also ran back to back stories about how great everything was last night.

Yesterday was a Great Day for Omaha! I can't wait for the CWS!
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Old 05-11-2011, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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I honestly don't mind a built-up downtown. I don't understand the attraction of a million people in close proximity...but I don't mind it--if it's possible to get to an event without taking 3 hours to get in and out.
The only people taking that long to get there are the idiots who try to cram themselves all onto the same Modcut streets. Use the alternates, like the ones Brad mentioned, and you will have no trouble.

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Old 05-12-2011, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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Last night was GREAT! There were no problems and everything went smooth!

WOWT also ran back to back stories about how great everything was last night.

Yesterday was a Great Day for Omaha! I can't wait for the CWS!
Still find it funny that after both CU-NU games I have been the ONLY person waiting for the 18 (service to N. Omaha TC, Benson Park TC, Crossroads TC) at Cuming and Florence Blvd. I was on the bus and heading home before many people even made it to their cars... and one of just two people even on the bus.

I'm not sure if it's a lack of awareness of the Metro system or a phobia of going into North O after dark... probably both... but while I wasn't expecting a full bus I was surprised to be the only rider last time and one of just two this time. The other passenger was coming from the Old Market.
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Old 05-12-2011, 02:53 PM
 
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Still find it funny that after both CU-NU games I have been the ONLY person waiting for the 18 (service to N. Omaha TC, Benson Park TC, Crossroads TC) at Cuming and Florence Blvd. I was on the bus and heading home before many people even made it to their cars... and one of just two people even on the bus.

I'm not sure if it's a lack of awareness of the Metro system or a phobia of going into North O after dark... probably both... but while I wasn't expecting a full bus I was surprised to be the only rider last time and one of just two this time. The other passenger was coming from the Old Market.

I think there is just very poor awareness of the bus system in Omaha. I know I've seen folks complaining on this board about the lack of routes to where they want to go.
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Old 05-12-2011, 06:31 PM
 
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I think there is just very poor awareness of the bus system in Omaha. I know I've seen folks complaining on this board about the lack of routes to where they want to go.
Getting off topic, but I agree. The bus route map seems so needlessly complicated with so many turns and loops and Saturday-only routes, etc. I was looking at the bus 95 map for a good 15 minutes against a real map and couldn't figure out exactly which route it took.

We also don't have route number or schedules posted on bus signs. I find this to be very useful and its cheap too.

And, our public transit system is not in Google Maps, unlike most other cities that I've frequented (e.g., create a map from A to B then click Public Transit).
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Old 05-12-2011, 06:54 PM
 
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Getting off topic, but I agree. The bus route map seems so needlessly complicated with so many turns and loops and Saturday-only routes, etc. I was looking at the bus 95 map for a good 15 minutes against a real map and couldn't figure out exactly which route it took.

We also don't have route number or schedules posted on bus signs. I find this to be very useful and its cheap too.

And, our public transit system is not in Google Maps, unlike most other cities that I've frequented (e.g., create a map from A to B then click Public Transit).
I just don't get it. Riding the bus is very simple for me, why do so many others have such a hard time with it? Would you expect a map and schetule at every stop? That would end up being very expensive in the short and long run. They have maps and schedules at every transit center except Midtown. I think the reason they no longer put route numbers on the signs is because bus routes change so often that they cover up route numbers with white tape and that looks trashy. Plus, if people look at the route schedule and map, they should already know where they will get on and what number bus they're getting on, so there's really no need for numbers on stops. With the bus signs they just started putting up, they post route numbers at points where routes intersect. I think that's helpful because transfering can be a little more of an unsure experience compared to initially getting on the bus.
Metro is on the waitlist to be part of Google transit, so it will be only a matter of time.
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