[iamjacobm]

Originally Posted by RhettB

I don't expect them to be. There are too many cyclists that think they do no wrong on the road, or that they own the road and everyone should yield to them.

To put it a different way... Speaking proportionately, more cyclists do not follow the rules of the road.

I would actually disagree about the proportionality claim.

I would wager that well over 75% of drivers have broke the speed limit in this past week alone. I know I have.

It doesn't justify the bicyclist breaking the law, but a complaint that they shouldn't be on the road if they can't follow the law needs to apply to EVERY vehicle user.

In my own personal experience I have seen 7 people riding bikes in the street this past week. I only saw one of them break the law. Most weeks I see more than that, but even for the small sample size it was encouraging.

[Calvinist]

Originally Posted by iamjacobm

I would actually disagree about the proportionality claim.

I would wager that well over 75% of drivers have broke the speed limit in this past week alone. I know I have.

It doesn't justify the bicyclist breaking the law, but a complaint that they shouldn't be on the road if they can't follow the law needs to apply to EVERY vehicle user.

In my own personal experience I have seen 7 people riding bikes in the street this past week. I only saw one of them break the law. Most weeks I see more than that, but even for the small sample size it was encouraging.

If a bicyclist breaks the speed limit, good on 'em. I'm concerned about the knucklehead that runs stop signs, stop lights, drives on the shoulder, and cuts into traffic. They are a hazard.

Nevermind the ones that simply slow down traffic.

[harshbarj]

Originally Posted by Calvinist

If a bicyclist breaks the speed limit, good on 'em. I'm concerned about the knucklehead that runs stop signs, stop lights, drives on the shoulder, and cuts into traffic. They are a hazard.

Nevermind the ones that simply slow down traffic.

SOOOoooo. You’re ok with speeding, but nothing else? Speeding is just as bad as running a red light. If you where really against cyclists because they are breaking the law, then this too should bother you. So it's clear you’re against cyclists for something other than laws!

As for the shoulder, that is completely legal and quite frankly the safest place on some roads, like the veterans memorial highway. As for cutting into traffic, if there is enough room it's called merging.

Lastly, slowing down traffic is not against the law. I would suggest you brush up on Nebraska law before posting again.

[Calvinist]

Originally Posted by harshbarj

SOOOoooo. You’re ok with speeding, but nothing else? Speeding is just as bad as running a red light. If you where really against cyclists because they are breaking the law, then this too should bother you. So it's clear you’re against cyclists for something other than laws!

As for the shoulder, that is completely legal and quite frankly the safest place on some roads, like the veterans memorial highway. As for cutting into traffic, if there is enough room it's called merging.

Lastly, slowing down traffic is not against the law. I would suggest you brush up on Nebraska law before posting again.

Going a little fast within safe conditions isn't an issue, in my book. It's people that drive or ride out in front of other cars that tend to worry me.

Keep your toys out of the way of my car.

[harshbarj]

Originally Posted by Calvinist

Going a little fast within safe conditions isn't an issue, in my book. It's people that drive or ride out in front of other cars that tend to worry me.

Keep your toys out of the way of my car.

You keep proving you’re incapable of an intelligent conversation. #1, speeding is against the law, no matter how safe YOU judge it, for both motorized and non-motorized vehicles. #2, a bicycle is not a toy, anymore than a car is a toy. Both are means of transportation.

[Calvinist]

Originally Posted by harshbarj

You keep proving you’re incapable of an intelligent conversation. #1, speeding is against the law, no matter how safe YOU judge it, for both motorized and non-motorized vehicles. #2, a bicycle is not a toy, anymore than a car is a toy. Both are means of transportation.

A bicycle is a toy ridden by kids. If you choose to get to work on one, you've got that option. Just get out of the street and we'll all be happier.

[Raphael07]

Originally Posted by Calvinist

A bicycle is a toy ridden by kids. If you choose to get to work on one, you've got that option. Just get out of the street and we'll all be happier.

No. You'll be happier. You have a tendency to use "We" way too much when you talk about YOUR opinions. You're just angry that if there is a bike on the road, you might not be able to go 55 on pacific street. You are only concerned about your own needs and desires and it is clear every time you post.

[iamjacobm]

Originally Posted by Calvinist

A bicycle is a toy ridden by kids. If you choose to get to work on one, you've got that option. Just get out of the street and we'll all be happier.

What you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[Calvinist]

Originally Posted by Raphael07

No. You'll be happier. You have a tendency to use "We" way too much when you talk about YOUR opinions. You're just angry that if there is a bike on the road, you might not be able to go 55 on pacific street. You are only concerned about your own needs and desires and it is clear every time you post.

No...I think I speak for a lot of car drivers that are sick of bicyclists thinking they can impede traffic.

[harshbarj]

Originally Posted by Calvinist

No...I think I speak for a lot of car drivers that are sick of bicyclists thinking they can impede traffic.

All I can say it get use to it. Cyclists are going nowhere and likely will only increase in numbers.