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Old 11-24-2011, 10:02 PM
 
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I stand by my post. Hurling insults and questioning my character doesn't change history.
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Old 11-24-2011, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I really don't want to waste my time correcting your lack of knowledge of American history----something I used to teach, btw. I will suggest that you read up on the subject. The library is a good starting point.
Oh no, please correct my oh omniscient one. You used to teach it. Teach.
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Old 11-24-2011, 10:38 PM
 
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Oh no, please correct my oh omniscient one. You used to teach it. Teach.
No. Why should I do the the heavy lifting? Do your own research. I've already read/studied and taught about the civil rights movement many years ago. Prove me wrong. At least go to Wikipedia and look up the "Poor People's Campaign", and read about King's "economic bill of rights" It's much more radical than anything proposed by OWS or anyone on the Left in Congress. Why is it that people revert to name calling when faced with an uncomfortable reality?

The civi rights movement used 'civil disobedience' as a tactic many times during the 60's. Many went to jail, including King.

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Old 11-24-2011, 11:37 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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No. Why should I do the the heavy lifting? Do your own research. I've already read/studied and taught about the civil rights movement many years ago. Prove me wrong. At least go to Wikipedia and look up the "Poor People's Campaign", and read about King's "economic bill of rights" It's much more radical than anything proposed by OWS or anyone on the Left in Congress. Why is it that people revert to name calling when faced with an uncomfortable reality?

The civi rights movement used 'civil disobedience' as a tactic many times during the 60's. Many went to jail, including King.
Oh no I agree with you on the Poor People's Campaign. I thought you were arguing that civil rights protesters resisted arrest, which they certainly did not.
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Old 11-25-2011, 05:52 AM
 
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Oh no I agree with you on the Poor People's Campaign. I thought you were arguing that civil rights protesters resisted arrest, which they certainly did not.
Nor did the protesters at UC Davis. Anyone who willingly commits an act of civil disobedience by practicing passive resistance fully expects to be arrested, not sprayed with chemical weapons.
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Old 11-25-2011, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Western AZ
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Here is a quote from Elli Pearson, one of the protesters who was sprayed.


ELLI PEARSON: "Well, we were protesting together, and the riot cops came at us, and we linked arms and sat down peacefully to protest their presence on our campus. And at one point, they were—we had encircled them, and they were trying to leave, and they were trying to clear a path. And so, we sat down, linked arms, and said that if they wanted to clear the path, they would have to go through us. But we were on the ground, you know, heads down. And all I could see was people telling me to cover my head, protect myself, and put my head down. And the next thing I know, I was pepper-sprayed."
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Old 11-25-2011, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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I stand by my post. Hurling insults and questioning my character doesn't change history.
FYI I am not a fan of Glen Beck but his track record for accuracy is probably a lot better than yours.

Good teachers deserve respect but NOT all teachers are good. I doubt you are among the elite. Your arrogance and adherence to the Party Line gives credibility to my conclusion.

The only thing MLK and the OWS people have in common is tactics. MLK had worthy ideas and goals. Just what idea other than "the Rich are Evil" does the OWS have?

GL2
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Old 11-25-2011, 07:36 PM
 
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FYI I am not a fan of Glen Beck but his track record for accuracy is probably a lot better than yours.

Good teachers deserve respect but NOT all teachers are good. I doubt you are among the elite. Your arrogance and adherence to the Party Line gives credibility to my conclusion.

The only thing MLK and the OWS people have in common is tactics. MLK had worthy ideas and goals. Just what idea other than "the Rich are Evil" does the OWS have?

GL2
Good teachers adhere to the truth. I'm still waiting for you to prove me factually wrong-----instead you insist on further name calling and attacking my character (and my teaching abilities without even having attended ONE of my classes). Is everyone who disagrees with you "arrogant?" Why is it that you lower yourself to character assassination? Are you trying to divert attention from the real issue here? You challenged my post but you refuse to back it up with any meaningful data of your own. Do your homework. If you want to speak for MLK, it might be a good idea to read up on his life and beliefs----all of them, not just the ones that fit into your world view.

Glenn Beck was ditched from Fox because even THEY thought he was off the rails. Track record for accuracy indeed.

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Old 11-26-2011, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Omaha Nebraska and dreamland when I am sleeping
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dont forget msnbc fired olbermann



btw: occupy omaha folks will occupy anywhere except a job fair





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Old 11-26-2011, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Northeast NE
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I finally got an informative response on a facebook page about Occupy Omaha. Now if they could convey this reasonable info in person instead of just appearing to be out of work slackers/whiners.

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Michael Ganoe (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001057928866 - broken link) Hi, my name is Michael, I'm a member of Occupy Omaha. Thank you for an honest, serious question.

In response, I would ask you to look up the "Declaration of the Occupation of New York City". It is the most succinct way to answer your question. Generally speaking, though, we are protesting income inequality, the unfair application of laws based on economic class, and the decision by the federal government, without the consent of its people, to give companies billions of dollars so that they can continue the same unethical practices that destroyed our economy in the first place. It is our intention to ultimately change the national conversation such that people who may have never even watched the news will begin to show enough concern for the state of the world and our society that they will begin to participate and support the common interests of everyone.

Every city & community that has developed an occupation (all 1200+ of us) has its own particular concerns, and many have formed their own declarations specific to the needs of their community. Norfolk is just beginning, and has not yet reached that point - they are reaching out to those who are interested in developing just that.

We are non-partisan and antidiscriminatory. Within the Occupy Omaha community, we have people from all political affiliations - Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, Socialists, Anarchists - And the support of all sorts of organizations, including small business, unions, the black community, the LGBT community, human rights organizations, and we have even managed to count a few Tea Partiers among our number at various times (the media has suggested that Occupy and the Tea Party are mutually exclusive, but that is not true).

We are peaceful and non-violent. We have used the philosophies of people such as Gandhi and MLK, Jr. as the basis for our mode of protest. We have developed a novel, but very simple, method of protesting that draws attention to our cause but, we hope, is not disruptive to the point of civil unrest. Civil disobedience, yes, but not unrest.

I hope your answers are questioned. Unfortunately, Occupy is a very multifaceted movement, and as such, no single answer is going to suffice to fully explain. I would simply ask that you attend one meeting with your local occupiers, and if you don't like what you see and hear, then I'm sorry we couldn't help you more.

Thank you.

Link to "Declaration of the Occupation of New York City"

http://www.nycga.net/resources/declaration/
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