[Garthur]

What do you think about this?

The CDC has said that they have no idea how he got infected. He wasn't even in the same area of the hospital as Ebola patients and they have not found a patient that he has worked on that had it.

So the experts are saying that there is minimal chances of it infecting any one here.

Ebola has mutated 400 times in the last 6 months and the experts have admitted that their test for Ebola only works on what the test is looking for and can show negative results on any of the newer mutations.

In the last week technical reports have come out to say that the new mutations are aerosol and you can get infected through a persons sweat, sneezing, and coughing. But they are sticking to their guns that you can only get infected by bodily fluids (this information is 20 years old).

Even Dr Tom Freiden (head of the CDC) says that when the Ebola virus hits the correct combination that it will become airborne and nothing can stop it from infecting over 90% of the public. Before you think that Ebola can't become airborne, the Reston Ebola strain was airborne so it has all ready happened, luckily it only made monkeys sick but every human had been tested positive for the virus.

I just heard that an official with the fire dept in Omaha say that "there is nothing to worry about we handle this kind of thing everyday". I wounder if I can sell him a bridge.

[Serious Conversation]

The two other doctors that were treated in Atlanta were treated successfully and at no to negligible risk to the public. I would assume the same would be true here.

[Gunluvver2]

A great plot for a work of fiction.

Something like this: A certain elected official will be out of his cush job in two years because the Constitution prohibits him running for reelection to a third term. All of his corrupt cohorts know they will lose their ticket to the gray train if their boss has to leave office. They brainstorm and come up with this PLOT. Allow thousands of children to come across our Southern border. Then send them to various foster homes throughout the county. Many of these children are carriers of infectious diseases. Another strategy is to allow Health workers exposed to horrible diseases like Ebola into the country so they can be treated. In the summer of 2016, a few months before the next presidential election, all of these communicable diseases are out of control and have overwhelmed our medical facilities. Panic and civil unrest threaten to cause total collapse of our society. Marshal Law is declared and elections are suspended. The rest of the story is yet to be written.

An insane idea right? Yes it probably is but time will tell.

GL2

[billiefan2000]

Originally Posted by Emigrations

The two other doctors that were treated in Atlanta were treated successfully and at no to negligible risk to the public. I would assume the same would be true here.

lets hope so.

[smithy77]

Originally Posted by Gunluvver2

A great plot for a work of fiction.

Something like this: A certain elected official will be out of his cush job in two years because the Constitution prohibits him running for reelection to a third term. All of his corrupt cohorts know they will lose their ticket to the gray train if their boss has to leave office. They brainstorm and come up with this PLOT. Allow thousands of children to come across our Southern border. Then send them to various foster homes throughout the county. Many of these children are carriers of infectious diseases. Another strategy is to allow Health workers exposed to horrible diseases like Ebola into the country so they can be treated. In the summer of 2016, a few months before the next presidential election, all of these communicable diseases are out of control and have overwhelmed our medical facilities. Panic and civil unrest threaten to cause total collapse of our society. Marshal Law is declared and elections are suspended. The rest of the story is yet to be written.

An insane idea right? Yes it probably is but time will tell.

GL2

Run for your lives! Don't forget all of those Muslim terrorists crossing the border who will force us to marry gays, move us into FEMA concentration camps and take away all of our guns. Thanks Obama.

[McBain II]

It appears your information is erroneous, Garthur. Friedhen has specifically stated that ebola is not (nor has it ever been) airborne.

CDC Telebriefing on the Update on Ebola outbreak in West Africa - 7-31 | Transcript | CDC Newsroom | CDC

Reston Ebola was only transmitted by air in pigs, not humans.

Are we *sure* Ebola isn’t airborne? – Aetiology

You can also read a statement from UNMC here.

Patient with Ebola virus being brought to med center | UNMC

There is really no need to worry. The staff at UNMC is top notch and more than capable of dealing with this situation.

[looking4home]

Originally Posted by smithy77

Run for your lives! Don't forget all of those Muslim terrorists crossing the border who will force us to marry gays, move us into FEMA concentration camps and take away all of our guns. Thanks Obama.

Well, you've got the Muslim terrorist part right

[Garthur]

Originally Posted by Bosco55David

It appears your information is erroneous, Garthur. Friedhen has specifically stated that ebola is not (nor has it ever been) airborne.

CDC Telebriefing on the Update on Ebola outbreak in West Africa - 7-31 | Transcript | CDC Newsroom | CDC

Reston Ebola was only transmitted by air in pigs, not humans.

Are we *sure* Ebola isn’t airborne? – Aetiology

You can also read a statement from UNMC here.

Patient with Ebola virus being brought to med center | UNMC

There is really no need to worry. The staff at UNMC is top notch and more than capable of dealing with this situation.

Complacency is a dangerous attitude to have.

You need to do more reading. I'm sorry to say that you are wrong. The Reston strain of the Ebola was airborne in a lab in Reston Virgina just outside of Washington DC. This was maybe 20 years ago. At the time the knowledge that it was airborne was suppressed from the press, only years later did it become public knowledge. 60 mins news show did reports about it, the book "Hot Zone" was written about it.

During this current outbreak the experts have not mentioned the Reston strain for good reason.

None of the current Ebola strains are airborne, but they are aerosol. This is in reports that have just been published in the last week. If you don't keep up to date daily on the technical reports will you be using information that is out-of-date.

A doctor that is a communicable disease expert was on a news show this morning and said that the medical community is very scared of Ebola but they are providing statements to the press that will not panic the public. He said that the US health system is not capable of handling any more then a few cases of Ebola. With Ebola having mutated over 400 times so far during this outbreak, the doctor said that if Ebola continues to infect and mutate it will hit on the correct mutation and become airborne and then "god help us all". BTW Dr. Tom Freiden (head of the CDC) said that Ebola is capable of mutating into a very dangerous virus (I wounder what he meant by that)

With this disease it's important to stay current.

[suzy_q2010]

Originally Posted by Garthur

Ebola has mutated 400 times in the last 6 months and the experts have admitted that their test for Ebola only works on what the test is looking for and can show negative results on any of the newer mutations.

In the last week technical reports have come out to say that the new mutations are aerosol and you can get infected through a persons sweat, sneezing, and coughing. But they are sticking to their guns that you can only get infected by bodily fluids (this information is 20 years old).

With truly airborne diseases, you can catch it just by breathing the air in a room. For example, you can get measles just from being in the same room that someone with measles left two hours before.

Ebola does not appear to do that. You need to be close enough to a patient that a sneeze or cough results in actual splashing of infected secretions on you. Household members of infected people who do not have personal contact with the patient or contaminated objects are less likely to get infected.

Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever Transmission and Risk Factors of Contacts, Uganda1 - Volume 9, Number 11

"Among the postprimary case-patients, the most important risk factor was direct repeated contact with a sick person’s body fluids, as occurs during the provision of care. As expected, the risk was higher when the exposure took place during the late stage of the disease at home. The risk was reduced when the patient stayed in a hospitals, probably because of the use of gloves, even before strict barrier nursing was implemented (6,7).

By contrast, simple physical contact with a sick person appears to be neither necessary nor sufficient for contracting EHF. In fact, one person in whom the disease developed was probably infected by contact with heavily contaminated fomites (patient 7), and many persons who had had a simple physical contact with a sick person did not become infected.

Transmission through contaminated fomites is apparently possible. In fact, the association found for having slept on the same mat or having shared meals with a sick person or with funeral participants remained after controlling for direct contact. However, having washed the clothes of a sick person and having participated in the ritual handwashing during the funeral ceremony were not significant risk factors.

Finally, although we cannot exclude the possibility of airborne transmission, this mode probably plays a minor role, if any. In fact, the association between having slept in the same hut and acquiring the disease was weak and could have been produced by some unidentified confounding variables. Furthermore, the reported Ebola virus aerosol transmission among nonhuman primates (17,18) has been demonstrated in laboratory experiments, which may be irrelevant in the natural context."

All viruses mutate. Mutations complicate the development of vaccines more than the tests used to diagnose them. Any test can have false negatives, and some people will initially test negative and be found to have a positive test on repeat testing, sometimes with a different test.

[McBain II]

Originally Posted by Garthur

Complacency is a dangerous attitude to have.

You need to do more reading. I'm sorry to say that you are wrong. The Reston strain of the Ebola was airborne in a lab in Reston Virgina just outside of Washington DC. This was maybe 20 years ago. At the time the knowledge that it was airborne was suppressed from the press, only years later did it become public knowledge. 60 mins news show did reports about it, the book "Hot Zone" was written about it.

During this current outbreak the experts have not mentioned the Reston strain for good reason.

None of the current Ebola strains are airborne, but they are aerosol. This is in reports that have just been published in the last week. If you don't keep up to date daily on the technical reports will you be using information that is out-of-date.

A doctor that is a communicable disease expert was on a news show this morning and said that the medical community is very scared of Ebola but they are providing statements to the press that will not panic the public. He said that the US health system is not capable of handling any more then a few cases of Ebola. With Ebola having mutated over 400 times so far during this outbreak, the doctor said that if Ebola continues to infect and mutate it will hit on the correct mutation and become airborne and then "god help us all". BTW Dr. Tom Freiden (head of the CDC) said that Ebola is capable of mutating into a very dangerous virus (I wounder what he meant by that)

With this disease it's important to stay current.

Sorry buddy, I'm not buying the conspiracy theories.

It's been well acknowledged that Reston was airborne (see the links I posted) but again this was only in pigs and non-human primates. Reston is non-pathogenic to humans as well, which is why no one is really mentioning it...it's just not relevant. None of this was "suppressed" and the information can be found in a variety of sources.

Suzy already knocked out most of the rest for me, and she is infinitely more educated on this than I am.