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Unread 01-23-2008, 08:37 PM
 
Location: west Omaha
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I haven't read the bill... but I would imagine all Omaha might be looking to get... is the ability to annex into unincorporated parts of surrounding counties... and I wouldn't expect the 10,000 population threshhold to change any... ie Papillion/La Vista/Bellevue would have nothing to worry about.

Personally, I think the surrounding communities in the Omaha metro... whether annexed into the cities tax base or not... should bear some of the financial burden for roads/infrastructure/amenities/etc within the city of Omaha... given that the residents of these communities are using these things every bit as much as residents of Omaha. To date, annexation has been the cities only tool to pursue additional tax revenue.

Minneapolis provides an example of how burden can be distributed across the entire metro... without the need for tax base annexation. They make use of a regional tax base sharing program, overseen by a Metropolitan Council... which is just as it sounds... a 'city council' for the entire metro. Each municipality within the metro contributes a portion of their tax base to a regional pool. In a nut shell... communities that are experiencing rapid commercial or industrail growth are required to share the benefits with communities whose economies have stagnated. The new 'learning community' is actually the same basic principal... applied specifically to metro area school districts. It makes sense because the metro really is one large, interconnected economy. If there's a successful new development, it should benefit the entire area... not just the immediate municipality in which it resides. Likewise, if there's a big new sports arena, the cost of it's construction should be shared by everyone. Unfortunately, such an initiative would likely stop at the river though. There have been attempts in Kansas City to bring together both the Missouri and Kansas sides of the metro in drives to fund projects like baseball/football stadium improvements as well.
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Unread 01-23-2008, 09:15 PM
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Location: 77 Square Miles Surrounded By Reality
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cities that cant annex outside counties are always hurt. kansas city though only 30000 people larger than omaha has almost 3 times the land mass they only get so much because they can annex outside county lines. and look at detroit. its county locked and the entire place is worse than north omaha
Kansas City also has huge suburban and exurban sprawl problems as well. Omaha should not try to emulate Kansas City and make the same type of mistakes regarding too much annexation. The city limits of Kansas City, MO sprawl over 300 miles and the population density is MUCH LOWER than it should be given the fact that it is the 2nd largest city in the state. The city actually promoted sprawl into Clay and Platte counties by building the KCI airport out in a corn field in the 1970s after the I-435 beltway was completed a few years earlier.
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Unread 01-24-2008, 06:04 AM
 
Location: west Omaha
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Omaha has operated in precisely the opposite manner... waiting for suburban areas to develop... then annexing the existing tax base.

By the way... Mayor Fahey has apparently come out AGAINST this legislation.
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Unread 01-24-2008, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Omaha
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The county boundary rule is one of the few limits that provide a safety net against forced annexation.
Democratic process would be best, but it has been sidestepped to benefit the most powerful interests. (You're in the way of progress, welcome to our city)
Cities rarely seek to annex areas with debt issues such as unpaid development bonds, etc. The current residents would be outraged to take on the debt ! Elections requiring voter approval, well.. The residents 'invited in' would need to see a benefit as well as the current city residents.
It's hindsight now, but Elkhorn's proposal is at least more democratic.
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Unread 01-24-2008, 07:39 AM
 
Location: west Omaha
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Democratic process would be best, but it has been sidestepped to benefit the most powerful interests. (You're in the way of progress, welcome to our city)
Word was... that the city had 'reached out' to Elkhorn in the same manner in which it did Ralston years ago... and that Elkhorn snubbed Omaha officials, apparently not wanting to be hemmed in themselves (so much for 'small town' thinking)... ultimately embarking on their attempt to annex their way over 10,000... and laying down the gauntlet to Omaha expansion.
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Unread 01-24-2008, 09:49 AM
 
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Just to be clear any town in Nebraska can annex across county lines with the exception of cities of the metropolitan class (Omaha). Omaha is the only city in the state that can not annex across county lines.

No other town can annex incorporated areas (other towns and villages) without a vote of the people in that incorporated area. Cities of the metropolitan class is the only one that can do so.
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Unread 01-24-2008, 09:52 AM
 
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Word was... that the city had 'reached out' to Elkhorn in the same manner in which it did Ralston years ago... and that Elkhorn snubbed Omaha officials, apparently not wanting to be hemmed in themselves (so much for 'small town' thinking)... ultimately embarking on their attempt to annex their way over 10,000... and laying down the gauntlet to Omaha expansion.
Elkhorn's stance was kind of hypocritical. Omaha didn't want Elkhorn to expand past 10,000 because Omaha didn't want their growth blocked so they offered the same agreement Ralston had. Elkhorn felt that Omaha did not have the right to annex them or other areas so Elkhorn moved to block that power by getting to ten thousand people, by forcefully annexing SID's without a vote!
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Unread 01-24-2008, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Nebraska
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Ah. Hasn't anyone told them yet that mere taxes do not pay for the constant upgrading, growth, and pay scales of the infrastructure of police, school, fire, water, sewer, roads, public works, recreation, etc etc etc - unless they are so high that it forces a mass migration out? Best thing to do is to annex property about to be developed, and charge the developers impact fees, as well as control the growth and direction of it! Grin...
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Unread 01-24-2008, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Omaha
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Ah. Hasn't anyone told them yet that mere taxes do not pay for the constant upgrading, growth, and pay scales of the infrastructure of police, school, fire, water, sewer, roads, public works, recreation, etc etc etc - unless they are so high that it forces a mass migration out? Best thing to do is to annex property about to be developed, and charge the developers impact fees, as well as control the growth and direction of it! Grin...
'Short-Cut'-
Annex to take in any business generating sales tax revenue, E/G Auto Dealers, Department Stores, etc. Millions at stake.
State Tax Rate 5.5%. Omaha is allowed to assess another 1.5% for their own use. Until a business is annexed into an area with that additional levy, their sales tax rate is 5.5% total.
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