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Old 04-24-2008, 03:46 PM
 
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I'll address the trash thing first. I lived in Midtown/Aksarben for awhile. I didn't pay for trash pickup. I move outside the city, still getting taxed by Omaha, and get none of the services that Omaha residents get--and I can't even vote for Omaha's leaders. That's called taxation w/out representation.

My 2 cars are a 9 year old Ford Taurus and a 16 year old Mercury Tracer. Combined value of about $5k. My motorcycle is worth about another 5k. It's not like I've got a 25k harley. Having said that, I'm not trying to pretend that I can't make ends meet--I'm complaining that I should not have to pay the wheel tax. In any event, I shouldn't have to pay it on more vehicles than I can possibly drive at one time. If my wife and I are both driving a vehicle on a given day, it's 2 vehicles.

Now, about the taxes. Huh? You completely lost me on that. Yes, I get a decent house in Omaha for 120k. The house may cost more in NY, but I'm guessing the average salary in NY is quite a bit higher, as well. And the percentage of their housing costs that they pay in taxes is lower than me.
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Old 04-24-2008, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Omaha, NE
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Actually out of 366 metropolitan areas, the average salary for Omaha was #36, and cost of living was 12th lowest...

So, I won't buy that argument..
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Old 04-24-2008, 05:25 PM
 
Location: West Omaha
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Kdlrich,

Salaries to NOT keep path with increased housing costs. You won't make 3 times the amount you do now. The bottom line...no matter how you cut it...you live more richly in Nebraska than Long Island. I'm not sure how I lost you. Its pretty simple. Its not about percentage...its about equivalence. Why is that difficult to understand?

As far as trash, I've never lived anywhere that didn't require me (or my landloard) to pay trash.

What services are you talking about...like roads? By living just outside city limits you get the same benefits as someone who lives on just the other side of the line. I pay my trash bill. You're simply having to pay for all the services that you're benefiting from. Or would you and your neighbors like to get together and maintain your own roads and ditches?
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Old 04-24-2008, 06:49 PM
 
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My neighborhood DOES maintain our own roads and ditches. I live in a Sanitary Improvement District...or SID. The city won't annex us until the development pays off its debt. Then, the city will swoop in and annex us to get at our taxes.

I realize houses cost more in other places. But compared to Iowa or other states around us, our residential taxes are stupid.

And in Omaha, people don't pay for garbage service. I do, because I'm outside of the city.
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Old 04-24-2008, 07:25 PM
 
Location: West Omaha
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Well, I pay for trash service and I also pay the wheel tax...and I don't have a problem with it. Why? Because I use the streets that connect my house to the grocery store, mall, and every other place in the city. And you don't pay for all the streets that connect to your neighborhood. You may pay for the streets in your subdivision, but your subdivision is embedded in the net of the city. Do you truly think you receive no benefits from the city?

Can I ask why you haven't moved to Iowa? Nebraska has a larger geographic area than Iowa, but has less population. The means the infrastructure costs per person are simply going to be higher in Nebraska. Plus, they have gambling...but they can have it. I don't want a slot machine on every block. There are actual REASONS for the differences in taxes other the government making poor decisions. Nebraska simply has less to work with in terms of tax revenue and has more to produce in terms of public projects.
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Old 04-24-2008, 07:41 PM
 
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Actually, since casinos went into Iowa their financial problems have gotten worse. I hate casinos and have voted against 'em in Nebraska.

Having said that--I spend quite a bit of money in Omaha. I pay sales tax.

It's the principal of the fact that I DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY THAT I'M BEING TAXED BY. Get it? I can't vote for the city council and mayor...but they are taxing me regardless.
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Old 04-24-2008, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Omaha, NE
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Everybody who drives to a city pays a city sales tax when making purchases....

What do you think should happen? I'm really curious to hear what you think would be fair..
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Old 04-24-2008, 08:25 PM
 
Location: West Omaha
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Kldrich,

I also pay sales tax in the city. Why do you think its okay for you to receive all the benefits that I receive yet you don't bear the same costs? To allow you to do what you'd like to do would shift your financial burden onto me. Why should I carry a larger financial burden when you get to enjoy all the same amenities??

I get your problem with the voting. However, the paying of the wheel tax is something that your representative body signed onto when they entered into an agreement with Omaha.

Furthermore, when you pay your wheel tax its through the county office with which it is registered (granted there are several counties that the city overlaps).

The various entities have concluded that your proximity to the city makes it fair for you to pay the tax, as you enjoy the benefits of the city like everyone else. While I can't say without knowing the specifics of your situation I'm guessing your county signed off on the Omaha wheel tax long ago. Nevertheless, you weren't taxed without representation. Somewhere along the line a public official or agency OK'd the measure. You just aren't aware of it.
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:11 PM
 
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state law allows for a city to tax those living within a few miles of their limits.

Yes, it is w/out representation, as I cannot vote in the city. they are the ones taxing--not the state or county.
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Old 04-25-2008, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Omaha, NE (the O-N-E)
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People live more richly in Council Bluffs! They can still drive to Omaha (less than 5 minutes if u live in west CB) and use all the Omaha services... Then drive back to CB and pay less in residential taxes, pay less gasoline taxes, and pay less to register a vehicle, and also i think a land line phone bill will be significantly lower!

I lived in Omaha for 2 years after I moved out of CB but I kept getting my car registered there! Saved a ton of money off the wheel tax! just keep ur Iowa license and if you get pulled over just tell them u still live in Iowa!

There is no way for them to tell for sure if u really live in CB or not... Trust me they don't call ur landlord to verify or anything like that
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