[nmnita]

Originally Posted by Stacy From Cali

No, I don't think its bad either...but I do think it unfortunate that the popular culture view of LA is all about gangs.

Like Omaha, much of LA is pretty segregated, so you are right, it depends where you are. I spent most of my time at school near downtown (super-diverse) and by the coast (mostly white due to gentrification).

Interestingly, Wikipedia has info from the 2000 census that says:

As of the 2000 US Census, the racial distribution in Los Angeles was 46.9% White American, 11.2% African American, 10.5% Asian American, 0.8% Native American, 0.2% Pacific Islander, 25.7% from other races, and 5.2% from two or more races. 46.5% of the population was Hispanic or Latino (of any race).

But as someone pointed out in a previous post, this does not account for anyone in the country illegally, so the numbers are a bit skewed.

And now back to our regularly scheduled program...

ok, I would assume you went to USC, I can't think of any other university near downtown..of possibly Los Angeles State which i don't consider really downtown. USC isn't what I call diverse, I call it all black or 90%, it has been for 50 years or close. LA State perhaps is a bit more diverse, but it is barely in Los Angeles, it is closer to Alhambra.

As for the beach areas, yes, they would be white pretty much. Again, I don't consider them part of Los Angeles as most are in separate cities, not part of L.A.

Of course parts of Los Angeles (I am referring to the city only) are segregated, but most are Hispanic, Asian and black with a very few white neighborhoods. Pacific Palasades which is part of the city is pretty segregated, most of the other areas are not.

I realize you went to college there but I do have to wonder how much of the city you really saw?? All of South L.A or most is black and hispanic, the west is Hispanic mostly as is the east and south east. The nothern areas like Eagle Rock and Highland park (both in the city limits) are perhaps a little more diversified, although Highland Park has a high Hispanic population.

Your stats alone, which are almost 10 years old, show majority, minority and do not take illegals or certainly many of them into consideration.
Nita

[Stacy From Cali]

Originally Posted by nmnita

ok, I would assume you went to USC, I can't think of any other university near downtown..of possibly Los Angeles State which i don't consider really downtown. USC isn't what I call diverse, I call it all black or 90%, it has been for 50 years or close. LA State perhaps is a bit more diverse, but it is barely in Los Angeles, it is closer to Alhambra.

As for the beach areas, yes, they would be white pretty much. Again, I don't consider them part of Los Angeles as most are in separate cities, not part of L.A.

Of course parts of Los Angeles (I am referring to the city only) are segregated, but most are Hispanic, Asian and black with a very few white neighborhoods. Pacific Palasades which is part of the city is pretty segregated, most of the other areas are not.

I realize you went to college there but I do have to wonder how much of the city you really saw?? All of South L.A or most is black and hispanic, the west is Hispanic mostly as is the east and south east. The nothern areas like Eagle Rock and Highland park (both in the city limits) are perhaps a little more diversified, although Highland Park has a high Hispanic population.

Your stats alone, which are almost 10 years old, show majority, minority and do not take illegals or certainly many of them into consideration.
Nita

Holy crap, do you really think USC is 90% black? Actually blacks are very, very much in the minority there. According to the Daily Trojan:

"About 6 percent of the freshman class in fall 2006 identified themselves as "African American.""
Daily Trojan - Admitted undergrads reflect current USC demographics

USC is mostly privileged white kids. They don't call it the University of Spoiled Children for nothing.

Although there are also many Asian kids there (I think around 20%). There are also a ton of exchange students.

However the neighborhood around the school is a really interesting mixture of college kids (who live in dorms or can't afford to commute from Santa Monica) and regular LA midtown families (in all shapes, sizes and colors).

You do a good job of pointing out the segregated nature of LA...but don't forget to include neighborhoods on the west side of LA like Westwood, Brentwood, and all those richy-rich places around UCLA. That's LA too.

Yes the stats are almost 10 years old because the census is only taken every 10 years...so I suppose we must wait until 2010 to know better.

Anyway this is a silly off-topic tangent. Lets move on.

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by Stacy From Cali

Holy crap, do you really think USC is 90% black? Actually blacks are very, very much in the minority there. According to the Daily Trojan:

"About 6 percent of the freshman class in fall 2006 identified themselves as "African American.""
Daily Trojan - Admitted undergrads reflect current USC demographics

USC is mostly privileged white kids. They don't call it the University of Spoiled Children for nothing.

Although there are also many Asian kids there (I think around 20%). There are also a ton of exchange students.

However the neighborhood around the school is a really interesting mixture of college kids (who live in dorms or can't afford to commute from Santa Monica) and regular LA midtown families (in all shapes, sizes and colors).

You do a good job of pointing out the segregated nature of LA...but don't forget to include neighborhoods on the west side of LA like Westwood, Brentwood, and all those richy-rich places around UCLA. That's LA too.

Yes the stats are almost 10 years old because the census is only taken every 10 years...so I suppose we must wait until 2010 to know better.

Anyway this is a silly off-topic tangent. Lets move on.

you know i didn't say or mean USC was 90% black, I went there for heavens sake, I said the area and you know this...Yes, if you take in consideration the kids living around the school it may be diversified, but the area overall is BLACK!!!Yes the area around UCLA is still part of Los Angeles and yes, it is fairly white, that is why I mentioned Pacific Palicades, Brentwood, Westwood, Pacific Palicades are all in the same general area. You are saying this is off subject, yes, it is, but you are the one that brought it up and nwo you can't back up your statements..Cut and dry, Los Angeles proper is very much majority, minority..

Nita

[Burning Silver]

So I'm just going to name the pros and cons of omaha and what your missing in the cons.

Pros:
Great music scene. Local bands and bands that come here. Concert tickets are reasonable if you know how to shop for them.
Great place to raise a family. Our primary and secondary education is really great. We have a great variety of public and private schools to pick from that I think are some of the best in the country. (I went to Mercy Highschool myself. My other sister Duschene and the other Marian. My brother went to Roncalli). UNO is a great college.
Great Housing/Job Market here. I'm only 18 but I know so many people around the country that are moving here from places from Cali to Japan. My own father is an African immigrant. It's pretty cheap compared to other cities.
Great conservative church town. If your religious-Omaha is for you. There are a plethora of churches and denominations for whatever faith you require.
Great Safe Family Fun. If you want to have a fun time and go to the zoo or see the fireworks every year Omaha is for you. The parks are pretty good. Movie theatre prices are varied so you can get a good bargain.

Cons:
Pratically a non existent club scene. When you've been to club scenes in Europe like I have it makes Omahas look really sad.
Not very culturally diverse unless you look for it. It's not like other cities. When I was in Amsterdam I sat next to an Italian on the trans, a saudi was in back of me. Two girls from Nigeria were next to me and a Korean girl was holding the bar in from of me. People here aren't really...used to different cultures and accents I guess. It takes time for them to adjust.
Not many diverse landscapes. I remember when I first came I wanted so bad for the bluffs in the background to be the ocean but its what it is. You have to travel a bit to get to anything beachlike (go to Decatur nebraska and rent a cabin there. There are some beach like banks along the river but its not the same)
People are sort of standoffish. I've been to alot of places but people here just always seem so grumpy. They have to either warm up to you or they just ignore you completely.
Shopping options are limited. Village Pointe, Shadowlake, Dundee, and The old market really try but they are no camden market or rodeo drive. I've found more original pieces in the many thriftstores here. You can find some really great gems in the less pretentious areas of town.
Not Biking/Walking friendly. There is too much of an urban sprawl that you have to get a car to function because again the mass transit is deplorable. Everything is moving outwest so if you have a job out there you have to commute a long way. There isn't really a biking lane. There are trails but its definetly not a biking town because drivers are rude here.


I'd say definetly travel the world and see what your missing but if you feel comfortable here by all means stay. I just love to travel. I've lived in many places but was born here and I admit that my heart is not here but I know that many people love this city. It's not for everyone but It isn't terrible like some would exaggerate.

[GMinSWO]

Omaha is not and never will be Amsterdam or New York, especially when it comes to size, vicinity to ocean, or "club scene." Again the diversity line is generalized and over used complaint. I have said this before but my street in suppossed "white" Millard near 168th Street has many families of Asian, Indian, African-American, and Hispanic descent. Omaha does not aspire to be New York or Amsterdam. By the way, I have traveled to many places been to the club scene in Amsterdam, London, Los Angeles, Chicago, New Orleans, Paris, Prague, St. Petersburg (Russia). That was fine but I still like Omaha better, but I guess that those of us who like to live in Omaha are insular non-travelers that have never been to a club or never seen an Ocean and are ignorant of the rest of the world. Also, I guess I should feel uncomfortable being a non-religious person but again I do not

[thatguy1]

Originally Posted by GMinSWO

Omaha is not and never will be Amsterdam or New York

Way to ruin it for me.

[Aenej4]

i have a headache........

[Burning Silver]

Originally Posted by GMinSWO

Omaha is not and never will be Amsterdam or New York, especially when it comes to size, vicinity to ocean, or "club scene." Again the diversity line is generalized and over used complaint. I have said this before but my street in suppossed "white" Millard near 168th Street has many families of Asian, Indian, African-American, and Hispanic descent. Omaha does not aspire to be New York or Amsterdam. By the way, I have traveled to many places been to the club scene in Amsterdam, London, Los Angeles, Chicago, New Orleans, Paris, Prague, St. Petersburg (Russia). That was fine but I still like Omaha better, but I guess that those of us who like to live in Omaha are insular non-travelers that have never been to a club or never seen an Ocean and are ignorant of the rest of the world. Also, I guess I should feel uncomfortable being a non-religious person but again I do not

*shrug* Sorry if you feel I was personally attacking you. I was just imparting my OWN experience with omaha. Not attacking it.
I suppose it did come off a bit arrogant.

[allehajane]

youve got it good im the one whos missing out on all the fun lve in lincoln nebraska need to go to omaha

[SurfOmaha]

Originally Posted by Stacy From Cali

No, I don't think its bad either...but I do think it unfortunate that the popular culture view of LA is all about gangs.

Like Omaha, much of LA is pretty segregated, so you are right, it depends where you are. I spent most of my time at school near downtown (super-diverse) and by the coast (mostly white due to gentrification).

Interestingly, Wikipedia has info from the 2000 census that says:

As of the 2000 US Census, the racial distribution in Los Angeles was 46.9% White American, 11.2% African American, 10.5% Asian American, 0.8% Native American, 0.2% Pacific Islander, 25.7% from other races, and 5.2% from two or more races. 46.5% of the population was Hispanic or Latino (of any race).

But as someone pointed out in a previous post, this does not account for anyone in the country illegally, so the numbers are a bit skewed.

And now back to our regularly scheduled program...

Have you noticed how an entire group of people are kept out of census data? Why don't they include the percentages of gays? More exclusion! Thats why!!!