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Old 03-18-2007, 07:15 PM
Location: Omaha, NE
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Omaha has too many wooden homes? A nice freeway system for people to get in and out of downtown in a hurry? Omaha has a few good areas in a sea of bland ones? People don't spend enough of their time sitting in a coffee shop? While I don't agree with all of those, your critisisms are pretty much characteristic of every city in the USA...I guess you see something I don't. But from my experience, and for it's size, Omaha has many more great things going on than you give it credit for. Plus it's at least half the size of the oddly selected cities you chose to compare it to. Columbus, Ohio???
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Old 03-18-2007, 08:23 PM
Location: west Omaha
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Originally Posted by Matt
its bland and they dont have any interesting urban neighborhoods
That sounds like a pretty sweeping statement to me. No one ever contended that Omaha didn't have poor neighborhoods... like most EVERY city... it has it's share of them. But there are also MANY very nice neighborhoods in the older parts of Omaha. In fact, some of Omaha's wealthiest residents live here... including the second richest man in the world.

Some pictures from the Dundee business district

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Old 03-18-2007, 08:31 PM
Location: west Omaha
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Fairacres... also adjacent 'horrible' Memorial Park

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More homes from Bemis Park

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More homes from Mercer Park

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Old 03-18-2007, 08:36 PM
Location: west Omaha
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More Gold Coast homes/residences

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More Happy Hollow

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There are blocks and blocks of these homes... large swathes of very nice old, historic neighborhoods in Omaha.
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Old 03-18-2007, 08:42 PM
Location: west Omaha
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More Hanscom park

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Lo Sole Mio... Omaha's best Italian restaurant, right in the heart of the neighborhood
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Old 03-18-2007, 08:54 PM
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska (moving to Ohio)
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I am not impressed, those homes are the cream of the crop the area East of 72nd street though.

I guess compared to neighborhoods in great cities like Squirrel Hill in Pittsbugh, Over the Rhine in Cincinnati, Victorian Village in Columbus and Chessman Park in Denver these neighborhoods in Omaha in comparison are just plain bland and unoriginal.

Its not just the buildings that make a nice urban neighborhood either its the vibrancy and the people. Omahans arent neighborly and its a very loose-knit city overall. Back in Denver and Columbus walking into the beautiful victorian filled dense neighborhoods I always liked going to the neighborhood coffee shops, restaurants and galleries and seeing people who I knew and meeting new people. In Capitol Hill in Denver and Short North in Columbus whenever I went out I could count on meeting new people and talking to friends whenever I went out. With Omaha they dont have one neighborhood with that friendly vibe that I am used to.

Architecture is one thing but its the people and sense of community that make a neighborhood great. In Nebraska people are insular and tend not to even know their neighborhoods and if they do its just a wave.

I guess the thing about Omaha's neighborhood is the lack of vibrancy. It seems like a vast majority of businesses when you walk in your one of the few in there. Its hard to believe why alot of these businesses in Nebraska stay open because so many times they just dont seem to have the people as in other cities.

Omaha is great for large families who want to live in a suburban type setting, but for those like me who like vibrant, older neighborhoods with vibrant businesses and coffeeshops Omaha is very lacking. In fact I think its the most lacking middle-sized city on bland, characterless older neighborhoods of course they do have some rare exceptions to the rule in the neighborhoods that you were showing. Every city more then a century is going to have some beautiful older homes including to Omaha because thats where the towns doctors and business executives lived.

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Old 03-18-2007, 09:07 PM
Location: west Omaha
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And as Titos said, you're picking cities which are nearly 2-3 times larger than Omaha. In most larger midwestern cities... I can point to blighted areas which are as large as all of eastern Omaha (and as much as I love photographing Omaha... I haven't gotten to nearly every nice old neighborhood we have).

Let's face it Matt... the only reason you're here... is because you hate Omaha. If I were you, I'd get to your Ohio destination of choice... and begin embracing all the good that it has to offer... rather than spending day after day, sitting on your keyboard... throwing crap and a city you hate. It's just plain unhealthy. Think about it. Get out and enjoy life. In spite of what you think... I'm enjoying life in Omaha. Instead of hating it... find some place you can enjoy as well.
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Old 03-18-2007, 11:09 PM
Location: Omaha, NE
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Matt, what you just described in your last post is more characteristic of small towns instead of a big city. Un-neighborly, sitting around at the local coffee shop hours on end, loose-knit, going to a local establishment and expecting to see people you know or chatting with people you don't....when I think of a places that are the opposite of that, Waterloo, or Ashland, or Greenwood, or any other small town of about 1000 people comes to mind. But on top of that, I've never gotten the impression that Omahans are un-neighborly. There was an article in the Omaha World Herald after the blizzard commending the neighborly-ness of Omahans and how they helped each other out with snow troubles. And going down the the coffee shop and running into people you know and then spending several hours with them at that coffee shop? Does that even happen on an unplanned basis outside of towns where there is only one coffee shop? I.....just don't understand!
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Old 03-18-2007, 11:47 PM
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska (moving to Ohio)
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In response to the last post, that is what people want to think of smaller towns. But its not reality.

People dont understand how small towns work. Most people like to envision small towns on the plains as green, victorian towns that are well-kept with a church and general store on every corner and where every one is happy and neighborly. The reality of it is in smaller towns you have one or two very affluent people who live in a mansion and the people in the town work 2 jobs for extremely low wages to feed their families which are usually with the small elite business establishment. People in small towns if they arent part of the extremely affluent tend to have time for work and family and not neighbors.
Small towns tend not to have a large middle-class like metropolitan areas do. They are either struggling to make ends to meet and dont have time to meet new people or very rich people who only associate with people in own social class.

Here in Nebraska going through the state a typical small town might have 5 beautiful mansions on a privately-owned large drainage ditch with a top-of the line brand new truck while the rest of the towns people usually live in small shacks and since they are working 2 jobs the only shopping option is their locally owned grocer which usually sell the produce that the chain stores refuse.

In a medium sized city like Denver or Columbus people usually put in 40 hours go back to their apartment and spend a night on the town going to coffee shops, art galleries and running with their dogs in their parks. People in cities urban neighborhoods tend to be outdoorsy, single and like having new friends
and volunteering in their neighborhoods. This isnt the case with every neighborhood in a medium sized city but a vast majority of them.

Small towns if one is not part of a very small extremely rich elite usually work 2 or 3 extremely low wage jobs just to feed their family and have a car and go to over-priced locally owned grocery stores. If they are lucky there is a large superstore less then an hour away where they can get high-quality food for cheaper rather then shopping these locally-owned small usually dirty grocery stores that are owned by the small town elite who runs the small town.

When a blizzard hits Denver, people are just as willing or more to help out then they ever would in Nebraska. One of the neighbors when I was back for christmas who had a snow blower decided to all the seniors walkways early in the morning. You would rarely see that sort of neighborliness in Nebraska.

I think the medium sized cities have been far friendlier Columbus and Denver then smaller ones I have lived in like Fargo and Lincoln. Then again Lincoln and Fargo are a walk in the flowery, green park compared to rural Nebraska.

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Old 03-19-2007, 02:02 AM
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Enjoy your sad life MattDen as you don't understand people at all. There are more good people in this world who are willing to give even you a hand. All you have to do is stop slapping it away for people to even want to be around you. If you don't change then in a short time living in Ohio you will have no real friends there either and you will begin your hateful ways toward these people as well. I feel sorry for you MattDen.
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