[Rumblebelly]

Cool. Now rural Nebraska is full of aristocrats and filthy grocery stores with stale bread.

[kosnebbear]

Well MattDen has not surprised me either. The ones who live in an area just don't seem to get it either according to MattDen and all of his statical data. From reading his other posts also it seems as if he does not stay in one place for very long. He has moved more times than I did while in the military covering the same amount of time. So to me this shows me a trend with him and I once again hope that someday he finds that special place that is his perfect place, until then he will remain a lost and angry individual.

You can not get the feeling of any place by just driving through it you need to get out and experience it, you have to talk with the people there to understand them, you need to show that you are no better than they are with respect. They may not have everything that Omaha, Lincoln, Denver or Columbus has, but it is their home and they love what they have and just the way it is. I grew up in a small town as well, in that terrible place called western Nebraska. I learned that it is not the materialist itmes that counts in this world it how we respect each other and those that we love that is more important. Some on my friends in school were from the upper class in the town, yet we treated each other as equals, they even wore the same kind of clothes that everyone else was wearing. You might say that a small town is like one big family.

Good luck MattDen in your upcoming move. I to like reading this forum and knowing that you are moving to Ohio I will drop in from time to time to see what you are posting there about you new home for the time being and to see where you might end up in the next one or two years. I do not know anything about Ohio so I will not be posting anything to the forum concerning Ohio or any of the cities or towns there.

[Rumblebelly]

Totally agree. You can't get a "feel" for the area by just driving through. The two negative stories he told, the one with the cook that was too tired to serve him and the waitress that gave him a crazy look, mean nothing. And who knows what kind of attitude he had towards these people. He obviously didn't like the looks of the area and he admitted to being in a bad mood. That's gonna turn people off and make them uncomfortable. Plus, there are unfriendly people everywhere. Anyone that's been alive long enough with common sense knows that. I think he's too young to realize that.

And then he makes these ridiculous leaps about the big aristocratic farmers is damn silly, with most of my family being farmers.

And his misleading information about wages and cost of living are unacceptable. People make just as little in Colorado but the housing is much higher. When I moved to Fort Collins from Nebraska, I took a big hit financially just to make ends meet. The pay isn't any higher there for most jobs. Unless you are an engineer or other white collar, you'll be paid the same.

My only complaint about most of Nebraska is that it's pretty flat and there aren't many trees.

[kosnebbear]

Well at least in Nebraska we don't put picnic tables under every tree and call it a park like they seem to do in western Kansas. Did you know that Nebraska has what is considered the largest man planted forest in the world and is the largest man planted national forest in America. It is called Halsey National Forest. We are trying to get trees in Nebraska.

Here is the link to the web page so you can read about this Nebraska jewel in the Sandhills.

http://net.unl.edu/swi/pers/halsey_forest.html (broken link)

[Rumblebelly]

Originally Posted by kosnebbear

Well at least in Nebraska we don't put picnic tables under every tree and call it a park like they seem to do in western Kansas. Did you know that Nebraska has what is considered the largest man planted forest in the world and is the largest man planted national forest in America. It is called Halsey National Forest. We are trying to get trees in Nebraska.

Here is the link to the web page so you can read about this Nebraska jewel in the Sandhills.

http://net.unl.edu/swi/pers/halsey_forest.html (broken link)

Oh, I know Halsey. It's similar to some parts in Colorado such as Red Feathers (but without the rock formations). I grew up in Hershey and we camped there a lot. It seemed like a huge forest when I was a kid and I loved it. That's why I'm moving to Upstate, NY at the edge of the Adirondacks...now, that's a park. It's the size of Yellowstone, Grand Canyon, Glacier, and the Everglades National parks COMBINED.

Nebraska has shelter belts and trees along water ways which are nice, especially around Lincoln and Omaha. Also, Nebraska is more lush and appealing than eastern Colorado which is rather arid.

Sorry, this thread is supposed to be about Omaha. Omaha is beautifully hilled and with plenty of trees.

[debct]

Originally Posted by MattDen

I am not impressed, those homes are the cream of the crop the area East of 72nd street though.

I guess compared to neighborhoods in great cities like Squirrel Hill in Pittsbugh, Over the Rhine in Cincinnati, Victorian Village in Columbus and Chessman Park in Denver these neighborhoods in Omaha in comparison are just plain bland and unoriginal.

Its not just the buildings that make a nice urban neighborhood either its the vibrancy and the people. Omahans arent neighborly and its a very loose-knit city overall. Back in Denver and Columbus walking into the beautiful victorian filled dense neighborhoods I always liked going to the neighborhood coffee shops, restaurants and galleries and seeing people who I knew and meeting new people. In Capitol Hill in Denver and Short North in Columbus whenever I went out I could count on meeting new people and talking to friends whenever I went out. With Omaha they dont have one neighborhood with that friendly vibe that I am used to.

Architecture is one thing but its the people and sense of community that make a neighborhood great. In Nebraska people are insular and tend not to even know their neighborhoods and if they do its just a wave.

I guess the thing about Omaha's neighborhood is the lack of vibrancy. It seems like a vast majority of businesses when you walk in your one of the few in there. Its hard to believe why alot of these businesses in Nebraska stay open because so many times they just dont seem to have the people as in other cities.

Omaha is great for large families who want to live in a suburban type setting, but for those like me who like vibrant, older neighborhoods with vibrant businesses and coffeeshops Omaha is very lacking. In fact I think its the most lacking middle-sized city on bland, characterless older neighborhoods of course they do have some rare exceptions to the rule in the neighborhoods that you were showing. Every city more then a century is going to have some beautiful older homes including to Omaha because thats where the towns doctors and business executives lived.

Matt, have you thougth the probelm could be,well you? My brother and his famliy found Omaha to be much more welcoming. THey made friends with in a week. In Denver it took them a few months to make friends. They found Omaha to have a much stronger sense of community. MAybe you come aross like you thik you are beter than everyone else.

I see you always complaing about the cost of living and taxes. Try living on the east coast for a while. GOod greif just give it up.

[debct]

Originally Posted by MattDen

I just check out of the forums several times a day whats wrong with that.
We tend to be usually be on here at the same times for some reason.

Everybody outside enjoying themselves in Omaha?
People in Nebraska hardly know what outside is. They drive everywhere, they have a mentality that it makes no sense to bike or walk when they have a car.

The only time people take a walk there is usually at the mall.

The thing about Omaha is able-bodied people seem avoid anything that they have to walk more then a block to be. Ive never seen anything like it. Nebraskans will just sit and drive around parking lots for 30 minutes so they dont have to walk an extra 50 feet.

I feel sorry for people's dogs in this state, very few are ever walked. Even on sunny, 65 degree days Nebraskans will just sit around and dont walk or the dog or take a bike ride.

People on the east coast drive everywhere too. I thought it was a common ting across the US accpet in cities like NYC where public transpotation in more convienant. Yes, on the east coast people will drive for a half hour not to walk in a parkinglot. Still people walk the dog.

[debct]

Originally Posted by kosnebbear

Once again MattDen with your age 20 plus years are being much older than my 50 plus years of meeting people from all over the world which only makes you have all of the answers to everything about nothing. If you would just take a real life look at the things around you and show some thing called respect toward others then, and this is a very big maybe, you will see that you are wrong about life. Not all people in rural USA, and yes you will also see rural USA in Ohio or where ever you end up next, are not the terrible people that think that they are. America was first just one big rural area before it became a city. It is the rural people who make America what it is today and tomorrow. It is the rural people who provide you with the food you eat everyday. It would be interesting to see what you think about all of this say in 25 to 30 years from now. It would be interesting to see if you will have a different attitude toward life then MattDen. Like I said MattDen you don't understand people, if you did then you would understand rural Nebraska, because rural Nebraska is the people who live there. So your statement about understanding people is like trying to move water with a bucket with no bottom, empty of real understanding.

I never knew how young Matt is. That explains alot.. I was like that too ten years ago. My aplogies to pople who had to deal with me then...

[airwing]

I lived in Omaha in the 1970's when I was in my early twenties and loved it there. There was always something to do and it was a beautiful city. I am originally from southern California and am living there now but I'm selling my house and moving back to the Omaha-Council Bluffs area away from Mexican land and back to mid America. You sound like my 23 year old son. He went to London. England and lived there for 3 months while attending a semester of college there. He says that is the greatest city ever to live as it has something going on all the time and is full of history and free museums and street fairs with interesting people and performers plus lots of live plays and pubs, etc. It is also a short trip over to Europe. Maybe London is the place you are seeking.

[ehenningsen]

Originally Posted by airwing

I lived in Omaha in the 1970's when I was in my early twenties and loved it there. There was always something to do and it was a beautiful city. I am originally from southern California and am living there now but I'm selling my house and moving back to the Omaha-Council Bluffs area away from Mexican land and back to mid America. You sound like my 23 year old son. He went to London. England and lived there for 3 months while attending a semester of college there. He says that is the greatest city ever to live as it has something going on all the time and is full of history and free museums and street fairs with interesting people and performers plus lots of live plays and pubs, etc. It is also a short trip over to Europe. Maybe London is the place you are seeking.

airwing, if you liked omaha in the 70's....
then you will be blown away at what Omaha has become, seriously....