[billiefan2000]

Originally Posted by Bosco55David

So does this mean all the people protesting there will be cool with paying the increased taxes now?

wont that happen anyway cause of the new


only going to be used 2 weeks a year Baseball Stadium downtown




or the Westwood Golf Course (that it's users) have demanded that tax payer dollars be used to pay for the golf course

[Bosco55David]

Originally Posted by billiefan2000

wont that happen anyway cause of the new only going to be used 2 weeks a year Baseball Stadium downtown

Not for quite sometime, if at all.

or the Westwood Golf Course (that it's users) have demanded that tax payer dollars be used to pay for the golf course

They just accepted a price increase to keep the place open, did they not?

[billiefan2000]

Originally Posted by Bosco55David

Not for quite sometime, if at all.

They just accepted a price increase to keep the place open, did they not?

yeah, but still the golf courses should be privatized.

our tax dollars shouldnt be used for people to play golf

[Bosco55David]

Originally Posted by billiefan2000

yeah, but still the golf courses should be privatized.

our tax dollars shouldnt be used for people to play golf

Here is another post I made regarding this issue on another thread, but no one ever responded.

Originally Posted by Bosco55David

Well for one, the city owns the land that the golf courses are on. Rather than just create another park, they put something just useful there that probably requires only a small bit more of maintenance than a park and can bring in revenue. Seems like a good idea to me.

As for why taxpayers should pay for it. Well, you have to look deeper into the issue. I'm just pulling these numbers out of my rear end, but you get the idea.

According to the City of Omaha website, the city owns 8 municipal golf courses. Well actually there are 9, but Knolls is listed as privately managed and since I don't know how their expenses/revenue are split with the city, we'll exclude them from this conversation.

Ok, so let's do some hypothetical math here.

8 city golf courses x $25,000 per year in maintence = $200,000.

7 city golf courses x $65,000 per year in revenues = $490,000

Then...

$490,000
- $200,000
--------------
$290,000 in profit for the city

Subtract $10,000 for the money lost at Westwood and you're still at a $280,000 profit for the city.


That's good, right? Well let's see.

$200,000 divided by 438,646 residents = $0.46 burden per resident.

Now, let's say we got rid of the golf courses. Now the citizens don't have to pay that $200,000 but the city has lost out on $290,000 in profit. Well they need that $290,000 back, so some other tax gets raised to make up for it.

$290,000 divided by 438,646 residents = $0.66 burden per resident.

$0.66
- $0.46
-----------
$0.20

Now again these are all hypothetical numbers just pulled out of the air, but assuming that Westwood is the only course that is losing money, it's actually a good deal for tax payers as they're saving themselves some tax burden and providing relatively low cost recreation for their fellow citizens.

[brad_in_omaha]

Wow... I just did a search for "Stadium" in the Omaha sections.... Someone is really bitter about the stadium when you see all the titles lumped together.

I am going to start a new thread... I hope the bitterness dosn't spill over there!