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09-15-2009, 12:11 PM
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OTOC (a liberal activist group) Calls Furloughs Unfair
OTOC To City Council: Leave Vetoes In Place - Omaha News Story - KETV Omaha
also, what is everyone's opinions of OTOC
OTOC reminds me of a Omaha version of ACORN for some reason
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09-15-2009, 12:21 PM
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“The very thought of balancing Omaha’s budget on the backs of city employees is, at best, troubling,” said Pastor Angela Khabeb with OTOC.
Yep. The answer to ALL of life's problems is to just raise property taxes, isn't it Angela?
I know the one gentleman who spoke very briefly on that video. He lives in an APARTMENT. Small wonder that he's short-sighted enough to think that raising property taxes is the way to go.
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09-15-2009, 12:38 PM
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omaha rocks:
you are so right on your comments.
the OWH Omaha.com - The Omaha World-Herald: Metro/Region - Rally backs Suttle budget
and KETV need to stop calling OTOC a nonpartisan group of local churches and other groups.
calling OTOC a non-partisan group is like calling MSNBC a nonpartisan tv network. it is flat out lying.
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09-15-2009, 02:31 PM
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Seems like raising property taxes on all owners of property in the city would be more fair than cutting the paychecks of a handful of omaha families that are employed by the city.
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09-15-2009, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by billiefan2000
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Here's a list of the Left-Wing organizations that form OTOC...
Augustana Lutheran, ChurchSt. Bernard Catholic, First United Methodist Church, St. James Catholic, First Unitarian Church, St. John (Creighton) Catholic, Holy Family Catholic, St. Leo Catholic, Holy Name Catholic, St. Paul United Methodist, Lutheran Metropolitan Ministries, St. Pius X Catholic, Mt. Nebo Baptist, St. Richard Catholic, Omaha Friends Meeting, St. Vincent de Paul Catholic, Resurrection Episcopal, St. Wenceslaus Catholic, Sacred Heart Catholic, Second Unitarian Church, St. Benedict the Moor Catholic, Temple Israel, Tri-Community United Methodist
Scary left wing Christian Organizations indeed...
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09-15-2009, 03:02 PM
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And here is their scary... "Manifesto", I mean mission statement. Pulled Directly from their website...
"OTOC exists to recreate community. In our fragmented society, people are disconnected and conversations about important issues are often difficult. OTOC seeks to reweave the frayed social fabric and connect people across the lines that tend to divide them: race, economics, religion, geography.
OTOC is broad-based, multiethnic and interfaith. Members are institutions, mostly congregations, although civic organizations, such as neighborhood groups, Home Town Associations and PTAs also participate.
We teach people to become effective leaders, explore their legitimate interests, do solid research, engage in sometimes tough (but always respectful) public discourse, hold elected officials accountable and create positive change through collective action. Through the practice of these skills, people build relationships of trust and, by acting collaboratively, become part of solving their own problems rather than expecting someone else to take care of them.
This is OTOC’s “Iron Rule,” never, ever, do for others what people can do for themselves. Community organizing demands time, talent, discipline and commitment. Those willing to do the work experience personal growth and transformation. Leaders trained by OTOC have witnessed the impact OTOC has made on their congregations and the community at large."
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09-15-2009, 03:23 PM
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Seems like raising property taxes on all owners of property in the city would be more fair than cutting the paychecks of a handful of omaha families that are employed by the city.
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How about getting the city council and mayor to make intelligent cuts? And how about getting them to STOP making stupid and arrogant decisions that are going to strap the taxpayers of Omaha with MASSIVE tax burdens in the future?
The people of Omaha were PROMISED that public funds would not be used to finance the QWest Center. Now the QWest Center is turning a profit - in fact, huge profits. Why not have the QWest Center pay for the QWest Center?
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09-15-2009, 03:32 PM
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How about getting the city council and mayor to make intelligent cuts? And how about getting them to STOP making stupid and arrogant decisions that are going to strap the taxpayers of Omaha with MASSIVE tax burdens in the future?
The people of Omaha were PROMISED that public funds would not be used to finance the QWest Center. Now the QWest Center is turning a profit - in fact, huge profits. Why not have the QWest Center pay for the QWest Center?
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Well those are fine suggestions. However, this thread was about how it was supposedly some left wing crankpot idea to defend the families that would be drastically affected by furloughs.
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09-15-2009, 03:44 PM
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Well those are fine suggestions. However, this thread was about how it was supposedly some left wing crankpot idea to defend the families that would be drastically affected by furloughs.
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Honestly, if you look closely at the list of churches you mentioned, you'll find that most of them have VERY liberal political leanings. Not that that is the center of this issue, but it is true.
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09-15-2009, 04:25 PM
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Honestly, if you look closely at the list of churches you mentioned, you'll find that most of them have VERY liberal political leanings. Not that that is the center of this issue, but it is true.
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Well good for them. They can be the beacon of light in this land of Elephant Insanity!!! 
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